Godox X1 system integration thread

nixland wrote in post #18160191
AD360 v1 with XTR16 works ok. Flash is off when I set the group in X1 to off

AD360 ii, V860ii and TT685 works Ok too on turning off group setting.

XTR16 on AD360 doesn't work either.

By the way strangely on X1T for Sony, there is no problem setting off strobe/flash with XTR16.

Flashpoint-XPLOR-600-TTL-HSS and (3) 600EXRT's

I'm trying to shoot Kitesurfers at night and freeze the action.

Normally at DAY I need about 1/4000.

I'll be 34 feet from the athlete using a 1DXMKII

Love to shoot at f/5 or 7.1 if possible.

Will the Flashpoint-XPLOR-600-TTL-HSS do it alone? If not... How do I configure the 3 additional 600EXRT's to work with the GODOX?

Thank you.

Yes.... I'm new to this at night.

KissMyKite

KissMyKite wrote in post #18165775
Flashpoint-XPLOR-600-TTL-HSS and (3) 600EXRT's

I'm trying to shoot Kitesurfers at night and freeze the action.

Normally at DAY I need about 1/4000.

I'll be 34 feet from the athlete using a 1DXMKII

Love to shoot at f/5 or 7.1 if possible.

Will the Flashpoint-XPLOR-600-TTL-HSS do it alone? If not... How do I configure the 3 additional 600EXRT's to work with the GODOX?

Thank you.

Yes.... I'm new to this at night.

KissMyKite

Freezing action at night, depending on what you mean by night, is purely a function of flash duration. The EXPLOR 600 flash duration gets shorter as power is reduced.
According to the readout on the pack, power has to be reduced to 1/16-.7 to get to a flash duration faster than 1/4000.
I expect that if its truly dark, you'll be able to get the action stopped at a slower flash duration.

F5 and the distance you mention should be doable if you're willing to go up in ISO a bit.

Does anyone have any experience with the X1T's "close range mode"?

I specifically am wondering if enabling this mode has any negative effect on anything? (And, if not, why Godox doesn't just update the firmware to have this "mode" simply the way the trigger works?

I also now find myself wondering if anyone has ever collected and written-up the various lately-added custom functions / alternate interface modes / alternate range modes into one document. Although I have most of the stuff in my head, I'd love to print out a cheat-sheet to keep in my bag. Today I was on a job and had to shoot basically inside my umbrella - so less than 12" between X1T and flash - and started getting misfires. It took a while for the right neuron-cluster to kick in for me to remember the close-range issue, but I couldn't recall the "fix" and wasn't in a position to start googling it.

(FWIW: Close-range mode is enabled by powering on X1T while holding down TEST - confirmation via 2x LED blink)

Owen.

Can i use the x1tC and the x1R with my yn568ii flash?

I just got a new X1T-C that came along with a recently-bought XPLOR600 / AD600.

They have changed the screen subtly from earlier versions.

Here are the differences I've noticed:

- Group letters seem a bit smaller and possibly sharper.
- Multi mode features a repeating lightning-bolt icon.
- Channel readouts have lost the leading zero. (Channel 5 is now "5" instead of "05")
- CF02 (zoom) now denotes off with "00" instead of "--"
- CF04 now features a second-curtain-sync icon
- CF05 (min. power setting) now offers "1/128" and "1/256" instead of "1/128" and "1/128-"

(Sorry if these exciting changes had already been mentioned.)

The operation mode enabling the transmitter to work in very close proximity to flashes seems unchanged from older versions. I had hoped that a hardware change might have been possible that would have got rid of the need for this "mode", but no such luck.

Anyway, it's nice to see improvements - even incremental / cosmetic - are happening.

Owen.

owenegan wrote in post #18189503
I just got a new X1T-C that came along with a recently-bought XPLOR600 / AD600.

They have changed the screen subtly from earlier versions.

Here are the differences I've noticed:

- Group letters seem a bit smaller and possibly sharper.
- Multi mode features a repeating lightning-bolt icon.
- Channel readouts have lost the leading zero. (Channel 5 is now "5" instead of "05")
- CF02 (zoom) now denotes off with "00" instead of "--"
- CF04 now features a second-curtain-sync icon
- CF05 (min. power setting) now offers "1/128" and "1/256" instead of "1/128" and "1/128-"

(Sorry if these exciting changes had already been mentioned.)

The operation mode enabling the transmitter to work in very close proximity to flashes seems unchanged from older versions. I had hoped that a hardware change might have been possible that would have got rid of the need for this "mode", but no such luck.

Anyway, it's nice to see improvements - even incremental / cosmetic - are happening.

Owen.

Please test if they already solved the group on/off problems (on X1T canon) if the flash/strobe use XTR16/XTR16s.

I only miss the mentioning of the firmware version.

dmward wrote in post #18014330
That's nice if one is using an imitation iPhone. What about the rest of us?

The rest of you will wait *LOL*

agv8or wrote in post #17941288
Owen

You're much braver than me. 2 600EX's? No I have not experienced any thing like this with my Canon 600EX's. I use YN600EX's for testing the X1 hot shoe.

Normally I would try to replicate your findings but to be honest I like my 600EX's. I'll see what happens with the YN600EX's.

You know that if Godox would build a professional flash, with the swivel head of an AD360II that tilts rearward initially, for those of us who bounce flash and hate to have to go all the way around forward just to bounce flash off our left shoulder rather than our right; and with all the features of the X1 transmitter and few more like displaying 5 Groups on screen at once and with direct Group selectability; if we had the ability to select sets of individual Groups to globally control flash exposure values; and about 20 or more other features that I have sent a list of to Godox. Then there would be non of this nonsense in trying to mount a shoe flash in the hot shoe of the X1.

For any one who will listen, since this is the Godox X1 system integration thread.

The best piece of advice I can give in using a flash in the hot shoe of the X1 is "do not do it"! It's an accident waiting to happen. In more ways than one.

Ok so no one is listening.

I am not sure where all this "TTL pass through" hot shoe stuff started but it definitely is not a "TTL pass through" hot shoe so lets get that clear right from the start. I described above why it is not nor can it be. So for everyone who thinks they're going to create the greatest dual TTL transmitter wireless system ever....forget about it. It ain't going to happen. It can't happen. You're just going to screw up a TTL flash, TTL transmitter or the X1 transmitter itself.

In all my testing that I have done I have found that the X1 hot shoe is nothing more than a Group A receiver. That's it, all it is. The only difference between the X1 hot shoe and an X1 receiver is that the information sent to the X1 hot shoe is direct rather than wireless, and it is only Group A information.

The problem with the X1 system is it's very aggressive with any TTL flash placed in the hot shoe of the X1 or an X1 receiver. This has scared me from the start. It takes total control of the flash and if you do not have it set to non wireless configuration or you try to change out of non wireless configuration while it is in the hot shoe of the X1 or an X1 receiver weird things start to happen, bad things start to happen.

But what do I know?

Great stuff and I am listening

I have not tested with XTR16S, but with AD360 and XTR16, there was no change - the problem with turning off groups still exists.

I should have mentioned - the new trigger firmware has the same, latest firmware (v18) so I believe the only differences are with the screen.

Owen.

owenegan wrote in post #18190413

Please test if they already solved the group on/off problems (on X1T canon) if the flash/strobe use XTR16/XTR16s.

I have not tested with XTR16S, but with AD360 and XTR16, there was no change - the problem with turning off groups still exists.

I should have mentioned - the new trigger firmware has the same, latest firmware (v18) so I believe the only differences are with the screen.

Owen.

Thanks. By the way any of you ever received any reply email from Godox?
They never reply any of my emails.
Worst CS.
Even Profoto replies my recent emails.

Elv has contact with Godox and Adorama. You need a very patient mindsetting with Godox.

I didn't think Godox sold their products. I thought they were just a manufacturer. My understanding is that customer service is through the (re)seller of the product. Maybe I'm wrong?

If you want customer service by from a reseller.. https://michaelmowbray​.com/molightstore/