Godox X1 system integration thread

Full power the band is still visible.
But what intrigues me is that work fine with the YN568 on the hot shoe.

I will search for some yn622c to test HSS off camera.

Perhaps you have to adjust the timing synchronization settings on the X1 under the custom functions?

Which way is the bright top moving when you dail-up the delay?

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1/200 and 1/250 HSS.

I will try this c. function, but it only can delay, not advance sync?

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That is shutter banding on the lower image. The HSS is not operating, the slit is small and only the top edge is catching the flash..

I got my R2 Pro yesterday. Here are some thoughts

TCM back to TTL
The TCM seemed to work, but it is a big hassle to change the lights back to TTL. This needs to be as quick as as it is to do the TCM. With 3 lights this will take a long time and a lot of concentration away from your subject. I also have Profoto lights and this is the best feature of them, but without a quick way to switch back to ttl, it becomes far less useful.

Mode - Multi Mode ?
When you are at the main screen with all the lights shown, pressing the mode button does something with Multi mode. This is useless, I have never had to use a flash in multi mode. It seems like all the designers from godox must use it all the time, with how prominent it is in all there flashes. This could be used to change the mode for all the groups back to ttl.

Channel Change
On the main screen the button under the screen on the far left is set to control "CH/Zm". No one needs to be changing the channel that fast during a shoot the CHannel control should be a long press under "SYNC". The channel should not be that easy to change because you could mistakenly hit it as it is.

Zoom Lights
I tried using the controller to change the zoom of a remote 685C speedlight. It would not change. The light would stay on the manual setting set on the flash. Am I missing something?

Screen Tilt
I wish the screen was not tipped on a 45 degree. You have to drop the camera way down to be able to read it. It would have been better if the screen was almost strait up or just a little tip.

This is why I didn't jump at the xpro just yet. I want others to vet it all out before! Good feedback.

I wondered about the screen angle, it would get annoying especially if this was on a tripod where you needed the camera about about eye level. A tilting screen would be a nice touch.

allengambrell wrote in post #18486216
... Zoom Lights
I tried using the controller to change the zoom of a remote 685C speedlight. It would not change. The light would stay on the manual setting set on the flash. Am I missing something?

I can't change zoom on my TT600s, but with my TT350-O and my TT685-C, if those are set to auto zoom, then adjusting the zoom on the XPro makes the head move, but you won't see the setting change on the LCD. On the TT685, looking at where the tube comes to rest in the head, it looks as if it's adjusting to what I've got set on the XPro. On the TT350, it's weirder, as the tube shifts back and forth in the head, but it keeps seeming come to rest at the same place near the front/fresnel panel, so that would probably be 24mm setting.

Regarding the screen angle, its actually 30 degrees, and that is one of the things Godox did actually adopt from our Flashpoint version design (as they originally had theirs close to horizontal).

It doesn't sound like much difference, though by 45 degrees the transmitter is significantly higher and larger looking on the camera. A lot of people complain about the vertical design of transmitters like the YN-560TX being too tall, and horizontal units like the YN-622-TX being too hard to read with the camera on a tripod, so I think 30 degrees is the best compromise.

I think Phottix may have a patent on the tilting option.

Regarding the other points I'm just hoping when they finalize the Flashpoint version that Godox will see that it makes sense to update some of these things on their version as well. As mentioned previously Flashpoint didn't sign off on the Godox transmitter like they will get to do on their own version, so they didn't get to make those changes.

allengambrell wrote in post #18486216
Mode - Multi Mode ?
When you are at the main screen with all the lights shown, pressing the mode button does something with Multi mode. This is useless, I have never had to use a flash in multi mode. It seems like all the designers from godox must use it all the time, with how prominent it is in all there flashes. This could be used to change the mode for all the groups back to ttl.

I agree - Godox having Multi mode on the same hierarchical level as M and TTL is a bad design choice. In high-pressure situations, I would really love to be able to toggle between M and TTL with one button press. On the V860II (and I guess on the R2Pro too) you need to cycle M - Multi - TTL each and every time. Like Allen, in a few years of Godox using, I basically never use Multi...

The futziness of the TCM switching is of more concern to me however. Any chance this can be fixed / enhanced in firmware? (Don't have mine in hand yet, so can't see the actual interface)

Owen.

owenegan wrote in post #18486666
I agree - Godox having Multi mode on the same hierarchical level as M and TTL is a bad design choice.

It's actually not. It's sort of one level higher up than that. If you hit the MODE button without having selected a group, it then switches to MULTI. But I think it's universal across all groups. It's not like a YN-622, where each group cycles between M/TTL/MULTI.

If, however, you select the group button first, then the Mode button cycles through TTL-> M -> off ["--"] for each group. The issue for me here is that you have to hit the group button, then hit the MODE button. Just me, but I'd prefer it if repeated presses of the group's button did the TTL/M/Off cycling.

Basically, the issue is the MODE button cycling. After you long-press/hold TCM, the group is in Manual mode. So, to get back to TTL mode for the group you have to hit [group button] -> MODE -> MODE. (A short press on TCM toggles in and out of the "one group" display mode). I suppose that firmware could reprogram long-press/hold of the TCM button to toggle back and forth between M and TTL. But the button seems a little overloaded already, doing dual-function.

I'm actually a little more concerned that there's no single-pin mode. I was hoping to be able to use this as a manual trigger on my X100T. Since I don't use TTL with off-camera flash often, and the X100T's leaf shutter and built-in ND filter mean I don't often need HSS, it would have been nice not to have to get a separate Fuji-flavor transmitter as well. I just tried it on my X100T, and sync was unreliable. Power settings did get pushed to the flashes consistently, but it didn't fire my TT685C reliably. Worked as a manual-with-power-control trigger on my GX-7, though.

inkista wrote in post #18486696
It's actually not. It's sort of one level higher up than that. If you hit the MODE button without having selected a group, it then switches to MULTI. But I think it's universal across all groups. It's not like a YN-622, where each group cycles between M/TTL/MULTI.

If, however, you select the group button first, then the Mode button cycles through TTL-> M -> off ["--"] for each group. The issue for me here is that you have to hit the group button, then hit the MODE button. Just me, but I'd prefer it if repeated presses of the group's button did the TTL/M/Off cycling.

This is true in wireless control modes, but not in the default ETTL mode, where M, TTL and Multi are at the same hierarchical level.

This can be a pain when one needs to switch repeatedly between wireless control and plain 'ol ETTL. For instance, I've started shooting many events using the V860II as on-camera controller / fill and an assistant off to the side with a AD200 in a small softbox on a stick. The light from this setup is great, but sometimes things change quickly and I'll be called into another room to do a quick shot solo. So, I'm switching modes on the flash to get out of wireless and back to ETTL, while also removing CTO gels / switching lenses. These are the times I wish the Godox interface designers had been working photographers.

Sure, you can build muscle memory to do these things - my fingers now know how to get from ETTL to Wireless Radio Group mode by themselves (three Wireless button presses, then three Mode button presses)

My wider point is that with intelligent design (no, not that kind), Godox could clean up their interfaces and increase usability a LOT. Just enabling the removal of never-used transmission modes from the wireless menu options would be a big help (like Canon does).

Owen.

The funny thing is Godox have simplified the Modes a lot by removing the ALL TTL and Manual modes completely . So all you have is the one mixed GR group like mode (and Multi).

I'm interested to hear what people think about that (missing the ALL TTL, and ALL Manual modes)? (disregarding any connection with TCM reversal to TTL issue for now).

There is no global FEC adjustment at the top of the screen like you find on the Canon ST-E3-RT etc either, so you basically have to do that with the cameras FEC adjustment (that was the case with the X1 as well though).

owenegan wrote in post #18486703
These are the times I wish the Godox interface designers had been working photographers.

Hopefully we can still get the coming Flashpoint transmitter version right. If they hadn't gone through with commissioning their own version clearly that wouldn't have happened.

I walked away from the master speedlite battle some time ago. Considering it was unknown how this Flashpoint transmitter was going to work out yet to start with.

Again hopefully these things filter back to the Xpro as well with firmware updates. Though if Godox do hear enough about the common complaints maybe they will act sooner.

I am still waiting for my Xpro. I don't own any Godox TTL products so having TTL in the trigger is obsolete for me.

I mentioned earlier a separate firmware wish and is the All Manual something like that?