6D vs 5DS r - Sharpness, resized?

Looking here, the 5DS R is sharper even with the image is resized to match the 6D (effectively dropping pixels down to equal 6D.)
http://www.dpreview.co​m/reviews/canon-eos-5ds-sr/8

But, looking here they are almost identical (and due to better lighting when the shot was taken, better on the 6D.) Make sure you resize in your browser so they're the same size.
http://216.18.212.226 …ES/E5DSRhSLI001​00NR2D.JPG
vs
http://216.18.212.226 …RES/E6DhSLI0001​00NR2D.JPG


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So, what is it? Is the 5Ds R better when the images are resized to be equal? Is there a fair comparison anywhere?
(I have capable lenses.)

Sensors only record light the glass allows through. My 450D (XSi) and 5Dc were perfectly capable of better-than-the-eye-can-see sharpness. Both were 12MP and that was 10 years ago. I can't believe the sensor matters all that much in a modern DSLR. Sensor sharpness? Really?

Seriously?

Here, lets get them both under a microscope so we can really dig into the differences.

...heaven help me..

Do you need the high resolution, and have the budget? Get the 5DSR....
Otherwise consider any of the other FF bodies out there, 6D, 5D3, etc.

They are all going to give you the sharpness you are looking for with good glass, there is no reason to pixel peep.

I don't understand the sarcasm.. I doubted the extra res mattered, but I asked people that know better; more importantly, I thought the lack of an AA filter might have an impact on image sharpness even resized to 1920x1080 or 2560x1440....

My guess is the 3 responders in this thread have about 100years of combined experience behind the viewfinder, which means of course, that we know nothing.

Get past the sharpness hangup. It will improve your work.

Bassat wrote in post #17943103
My guess is the 3 responders in this thread have about 100years of combined experience behind the viewfinder, which means of course, that we know nothing.

Get past the sharpness hangup. It will improve your work.

Also saves me 2.5k because I can get an extra 6D instead of a 5Ds R

icor1031v2 wrote in post #17942700
Looking here, the 5DS R is sharper even with the image is resized to match the 6D (effectively dropping pixels down to equal 6D.)
http://www.dpreview.co​m/reviews/canon-eos-5ds-sr/8

But, looking here they are almost identical (and due to better lighting when the shot was taken, better on the 6D.) Make sure you resize in your browser so they're the same size.
http://216.18.212.226 …ES/E5DSRhSLI001​00NR2D.JPG
vs
http://216.18.212.226 …RES/E6DhSLI0001​00NR2D.JPG


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So, what is it? Is the 5Ds R better when the images are resized to be equal? Is there a fair comparison anywhere?
(I have capable lenses.)

i'm not sure what the point is of such a comparison. why would you downsize the 5dsr images? if anything you would upsize the 6d images, and i'm sure after that there's no comparison.

Bassat wrote in post #17943103
My guess is the 3 responders in this thread have about 100years of combined experience behind the viewfinder, which means of course, that we know nothing.

Get past the sharpness hangup. It will improve your work.

yeah, sharpness in itself isn't usually that important. but the sharpness combined with the high 50mp resolution could vastly improve your work as it offers a humongoid advantage: crazy cropability. the 5dsr made the most significant impact to my work out of all the purchases i made in the last several years.

use one. it'll blow your mind how much more creative you can get with it.

Xyclopx wrote in post #17944515
i'm not sure what the point is of such a comparison. why would you downsize the 5dsr images? if anything you would upsize the 6d images, and i'm sure after that there's no comparison.

yeah, sharpness in itself isn't usually that important. but the sharpness combined with the high 50mp resolution could vastly improve your work as it offers a humongoid advantage: crazy cropability. the 5dsr made the most significant impact to my work out of all the purchases i made in the last several years.

use one. it'll blow your mind how much more creative you can get with it.

Yes I really would love a 5DS for my airshow work, where I am usually FL limited at 600mm, even on an APS-C sensor. This is the first digital camera with a 35mm format sensor that I would actually consider. I would still be happy to crop down to leave just 15×10mm of sensor, as I have to do with my current camera, and I would still have more pixels than I get with my 50D. I would also get to leave the zoom at 600mm until the image filled the full 36×24mm sensor before having to zoom out. I currently find that my 50D has both ample buffer depth, and a high enough frame rate (I usually shoot bursts on Low speed) that I don't think the 5DS would be a disadvantage. Well except the price I suppose, and I need a new computer anyway, the old one really is now suffering it's death throws.

Alan

BigAl007 wrote in post #17944961
Yes I really would love a 5DS for my airshow work, where I am usually FL limited at 600mm, even on an APS-C sensor. This is the first digital camera with a 35mm format sensor that I would actually consider. I would still be happy to crop down to leave just 15×10mm of sensor, as I have to do with my current camera, and I would still have more pixels than I get with my 50D. I would also get to leave the zoom at 600mm until the image filled the full 36×24mm sensor before having to zoom out. I currently find that my 50D has both ample buffer depth, and a high enough frame rate (I usually shoot bursts on Low speed) that I don't think the 5DS would be a disadvantage. Well except the price I suppose, and I need a new computer anyway, the old one really is now suffering it's death throws.

Alan

yeah, unfortunately even 50mp is only similar in pixel density as the better canon crop sensors, so it wouldn't really offer more "reach", but it should allow for better composition given that you'll have more area to play with. also, as you said, you would have a little more freedom in how close the the plane can get before it no longer fits the frame.

you should get one--the amount of detail you get will blow your mind! also, personally, i found that the noise created, though similar in amount per pixel compared to the 7d2, is significantly less visible or distracting when viewed at the same sizes.

Xyclopx wrote in post #17944980
yeah, unfortunately even 50mp is only similar in pixel density as the better canon crop sensors, so it wouldn't really offer more "reach", but it should allow for better composition given that you'll have more area to play with. also, as you said, you would have a little more freedom in how close the the plane can get before it no longer fits the frame.

you should get one--the amount of detail you get will blow your mind! also, personally, i found that the noise created, though similar in amount per pixel compared to the 7d2, is significantly less visible or distracting when viewed at the same sizes.

Since I am disabled and have to live on seemingly shrinking disability benefits, since I am unable to work even part time regular hours, it will be a significant number of years until the 5DS reaches my secondhand price bracket. Unless I win big on the lotto, and I don't have money to play that anyway. I will just have to keep lusting away.

Alan