1Dx image quality compared to 6D..

K Soze wrote in post #17955026
I traded in my 5Diii for a 1DX. I also own the 7 Dii. If I could swing it I would have two 1DXs. The 1Dx is better for even birds. I read others saying that and did not believe it. It's true. Better images cropped in and more keepers than 7Dii. Same with sports. 6d, 7dii and 5diii are all great, nothing wrong with any of them, that is why it is a tough descision and long thread.

Get the 1DX other wise you will be second guessing because you don't have the top camera. Best being relative. The new 5Ds for landscape seems killer too

The 1Dx is the fastest-acting camera already released by Canon. It certainly has a benefit there, and the larger sensor gives you more jump room to get whole birds where you might lose the head with a 7D2. Perhaps the AF is a little better, too. However, you can't get the detail of the bird that you can with the 7D2, when you do get it (and it's not hard to do with the right lens). If you use a TC or 1.4x more TC to get the details with a 1Dx, you lose its potential IQ benefit by using double the ISO. You run into a wall with the f-number and PDAF quicker than with a 7D2. The 1Dx is not the super-camera.; it is better at some things and worst at getting real detail than the 7D2. Sharp pixels at 100%, BTW, is not detail about the subject; it is detail about the pixels. As soon as you upsample it to match 7D2 subject size on screen, that acuity is gone unless you pixelate it with nearest neighbor.

ksbal wrote in post #17955032
I would get either the 1Dx or the 5Dsr then, if a crop sensor is totally out of the question.

5Dsr is beter DR wise, but has adequate af for stationary wildlife and better af than the 6D, and miles of cropping available.

1Dx is the way to go for birds on the move.

There is a trade off for 'pixels on the target' though, depending on how deep the pockets are for longer lenses.

The ideal answer would be 1DxII shutter lag, burst speed, and AF, with 5Ds(r) resolution.

ksbal wrote in post #17955032
I would get either the 1Dx or the 5Dsr then, if a crop sensor is totally out of the question.

5Dsr is beter DR wise, but has adequate af for stationary wildlife and better af than the 6D, and miles of cropping available.

1Dx is the way to go for birds on the move.

There is a trade off for 'pixels on the target' though, depending on how deep the pockets are for longer lenses.

That is why we keep bringing up the 7DII, people pairing that with the 100-400mm v2 are very happy with that combo for birds and wildlife. You mention the worry of losing croping with the 1dx, and the 7DII is very good at making up for that. There are merits to both, and how much you want to spend usually determines the equipment direction. Usually AF, and pixels on the target are Number 1 and number 2 for birding... then high iso performance, then DR is down the list. JMHO, YMMV.

The 1DX is the camera I have decided upon.....It was what I originally wanted and as others have verified, it is the best camera for the job....
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don1163 wrote in post #17955068
The 1DX is the camera I have decided upon.....It was what I originally wanted and as others have verified, it is the best camera for the job....
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You won't regret a 1DX, it is a very versatile camera that will get you great images when other bodies are struggling. The AF etc will be a revelation compared to what you are probably used to.

Time to go shopping!

johnf3f wrote in post #17955091
You won't regret a 1DX, it is a very versatile camera that will get you great images when other bodies are struggling. The AF etc will be a revelation compared to what you are probably used to.

Time to go shopping!

I think it is the right one to go for John and I know I will not be disappointed... Do you think body prices will drop once the mk2 becomes available ?? I want to buy new if possible..

I hope the prices don't drop as my 1DX will be worth less!
I notice that you are in the UK so have a look here if you are after a new one:

http://www.cameraprice​buster.co.uk …l-SLRs/Canon-EOS-1DX-Body

You could also look at the "Grey Imports" if you are comfortable with those.

It has come down by about £1000 since I bought mine. When Canon introduces a new 1 series they generally run down stocks of the older model first so I would not expect there to be many 1DX (Mk1) bodies in stock - though they may come down a little further.
If I were in your shoes I would be looking for a nice used one - they are built to last and have a long design life so even if one has 100,000 + clicks on it it's probably only run in.

If you do get a 1DX spend a little time getting used to it and setting it up to suit you and your needs. There are so many adjustments that I can seem a little daunting at first but it is well worth the effort. My 1DX is now the simplest camera to use that I have owned for quite some time - makes my point and shoot give me a headache! If you want any suggestions to try PM me.

Thanks for your advice John, I will let you know how I get on...

johnf3f wrote in post #17955091
You won't regret a 1DX, it is a very versatile camera that will get you great images when other bodies are struggling. The AF etc will be a revelation compared to what you are probably used to.

Time to go shopping!

Which other bodies are you talking about?

The 7D2 is what you really need...

You've made up your mind so just go buy a 1Dx and close the thread. You will not be disappointed. When the new Mk2 starts shipping next month you may see it drop a little bit but if you are only interested in buying new just go for it and start shooting. What's a few hundred dollars compared with time behind the lens? Really, you've made up your mind so just buy it already.

Basically anything that doesn't have the AF and ISO performance of the 1DX. Under good conditions or where there is a little more time (seconds) then most modern bodies will do a good job. For example the AF on my 7D2 is very good (nearly as good as my 1DX) but the ISO performance limits it in poorer lighting conditions.
Some need the ultimate in frame rate (10 fps is plenty for me!), others demand the most robust and best sealed bodies available etc, etc.
I assume you went through a tick list of your priorities before you bought your 1DX, my priorities were AF performance (mainly for moving subjects), good high ISO performance (due to often needing high shutter speeds), control layout and flexibility - the list goes on! Overall I felt that the 1DX was the best camera, at the time, to fulfill my needs and have been very pleased with my decision.
For many it's resolution is too low or it is simply too bulky and heavy. Others will just not feel that it is worth the money, it's all swings and roundabouts.

As to "Which other bodies are you talking about?" - for my needs/wants that's every other camera body that I have yet tried (not including the 1DX2) also when considering other manufacturers the whole system had to be considered.