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Apr 04, 2016 17:23 as a reply to  @ post 17960772 |  #16

yeah, not too sure how happy i would be doing 1000s


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Apr 04, 2016 17:57 |  #18

Thanks for the suggestions. I checked into the Epson v700. It has been discontinued. I will check out the canon scanner and Epson v850. I have a canon for my 120 negatives. My budget is around $1k, for those of you who asked. Thank you all.


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Apr 05, 2016 03:36 |  #19

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Thanks for the suggestions. I checked into the Epson v700. It has been discontinued. I will check out the canon scanner and Epson v850. I have a canon for my 120 negatives. My budget is around $1k, for those of you who asked. Thank you all.

If you are already scanning 120 negatives, why would you need a different scanner for doing 120 transpancies? I thought most scanners could handle both.

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Apr 05, 2016 13:01 |  #20

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Your choices are limited. Epson V500, V600, or V700/V750. Or Canon 9000f. They would produce OK results. If you are aftering quality scans, prepare to budget yourself around $2k. Plustek makes a 120 scanner. DSLR scanning is tricky and too many details to work out in order to produce good scans. I DSLR scan my medium format negatives but the process is pretty tedious and slow. I don't mind since all I need is a good macro lens in order to produce sharp scans....the sharpness would rival all Nikon scanners. The DR and shadow details can be tricky to master. And the color conversion process.......tedious.​.

I checked out the canon 9000f. It will scan 120 negatives, but, will not scan 120 transparencies. Thanks, nick.


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If you are already scanning 120 negatives, why would you need a different scanner for doing 120 transpancies? I thought most scanners could handle both.

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Alan. The canon 9000f will scan 35 negatives, 35 positives, and 120 negatives, but not 120 transparencies. Go figure.


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I checked out the canon 9000f. It will scan 120 negatives, but, will not scan 120 transparencies. Thanks, nick.


It does. The scanning is the same. Is just that you don't need to invert it with slides or transparencies using the scanning software. I owned a Canon 9000f before.


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Take a look into ScanCafe. They are reasonably priced and produce good results. To scan 1,000's will take you a very long boring time.




  
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It does. The scanning is the same. Is just that you don't need to invert it with slides or transparencies using the scanning software. I owned a Canon 9000f before.

I read the specs on the 9000f. They stated just the 35mm slides & negatives, and the 120 negatives. It did not say it would scan 120 transparencies. I ordered it, and it should be here soon. Cannot wait to use it. thanks, nick.


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Take a look into ScanCafe. They are reasonably priced and produce good results. To scan 1,000's will take you a very long boring time.

I will check it out. Cannot wait for long boring hours. Thanks for the info. nick


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You should buy a copy of VueScan as well. Is a much, much better scanning software than anything out there.


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This is how I used my Canon 9000f to scan. The glass there is an anti reflective glass, or anti newton ring glass. It can be purchased locally at your local picture and framing store. $8 for a 8x10. Online? Some vendors are charging you over $40. LOL... The edged side of the glass is facing down. This didn't solve the newton ring issues on the side, the scanner glass side, depending on the types of negatives. Again, I never used the scanning holders on the Canon.

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TooManyShots wrote in post #17963637 (external link)
You should buy a copy of VueScan as well. Is a much, much better scanning software than anything out there.

I have tried VueScan and have struggled with it. It has tons of options, and is very impressive, but I found it to be a very difficult program to use. The manuals and tutorials out there are not very good and are little help in my experience.

When doing scans (mostly of color negs), it selects different black points for each scan. That means you have a different gamma (contrast) for each pic, even if they are all a single series in the same roll with the same lighting. I mean, if the framing varies a bit from pic to pic, it might include something darker or lighter, and so it sets a different black point. To me that is just not right. They should all have the same gamma. And getting good colors is tough. Sometimes the colors are brilliant, other times they look wrong and are very hard to fix. Maybe I just don't know what I'm doing, but as I said, I couldn't figure it out. So now I'm using the software that comes with the scanner, and it has all become much easier.

If you know how to tame VueScan for getting good scans, especially of negs, please advise!


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I have tried VueScan and have struggled with it. It has tons of options, and is very impressive, but I found it to be a very difficult program to use. The manuals and tutorials out there are not very good and are little help in my experience.

When doing scans (mostly of color negs), it selects different black points for each scan. That means you have a different gamma (contrast) for each pic, even if they are all a single series in the same roll with the same lighting. I mean, if the framing varies a bit from pic to pic, it might include something darker or lighter, and so it sets a different black point. To me that is just not right. They should all have the same gamma. And getting good colors is tough. Sometimes the colors are brilliant, other times they look wrong and are very hard to fix. Maybe I just don't know what I'm doing, but as I said, I couldn't figure it out. So now I'm using the software that comes with the scanner, and it has all become much easier.

If you know how to tame VueScan for getting good scans, especially of negs, please advise!


I am trying to locate the youtube clip in how to scan color negatives using VueScan and ColorNeg http://www.colorperfec​t.com/colorneg.html?la​ng=en (external link) It was uploaded and created by one of our resident members here. I couldn't find it. Basically, for color scans, you want to do a flat, raw scan on the color negatives (no profile or inversion used). Then, export to photoshop and to use ColorNeg to invert it. ColorNeg has tons of film profiles for the inversion. It could nail the color about 90% accuracy. The rest, you can tweak in Lightroom or photoshop.


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I am trying to locate the youtube clip in how to scan color negatives using VueScan and ColorNeg http://www.colorperfec​t.com/colorneg.html?la​ng=en (external link) It was uploaded and created by one of our resident members here. I couldn't find it. Basically, for color scans, you want to do a flat, raw scan on the color negatives (no profile or inversion used). Then, export to photoshop and to use ColorNeg to invert it. ColorNeg has tons of film profiles for the inversion. It could nail the color about 90% accuracy. The rest, you can tweak in Lightroom or photoshop.

OK, that is a good hint. But why resort to VueScan if all one does is a flat scan?


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OK, that is a good hint. But why resort to VueScan if all one does is a flat scan?


VueScan is great for black and white. Two, the only scanning software that would allow you to scan a raw copy of your negative.... It gives you the option to scan in various color bits as well. Most scanning software that comes with the scanners are pretty featureless and they are designed for quick scanning.


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