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Apr 20, 2016 11:18 as a reply to  @ post 17978424 |  #16

may I introduce you to the sony A7 series, where accuracy is at a very high level :-)

You can adapt the sigma/otus and get pin sharp eyes @ 1.4, even up close.


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Apr 20, 2016 11:23 |  #17

Charlie wrote in post #17978443 (external link)
may I introduce you to the sony A7 series, where accuracy is at a very high level :-)

You can adapt the sigma/otus and get pin sharp eyes @ 1.4, even up close.

I considered sony, but my canon does largely the same thing with magic lantern - unless you know something I don't.
I turned off focus peaking, it made focusing more difficult. Faster, but more distracting.

Magic lantern's live view zoom features are very useful... when they work.


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Apr 20, 2016 12:06 |  #18

icor1031v2 wrote in post #17978451 (external link)
I considered sony, but my canon does largely the same thing with magic lantern - unless you know something I don't.
I turned off focus peaking, it made focusing more difficult. Faster, but more distracting.

Magic lantern's live view zoom features are very useful... when they work.

believe me, not even close. My previous camera was the 6D, and I used it for years with ML.

a few things, magic lantern requires viewing the rear LCD, you can use the evf on the sony. Sony has focus peaking built by the manufacturer, and you can configure the intensity much better. You can also zoom to your desired focus point and quickly fire off when in focus. Lastly, IBIS.... it's huge for longer focal lengths and critical framing. When you're going for ultimate sharpness manually, you want a steady viewfinder, especially if you're zoomed in. If you're relying on AF, you'll get much better accuracy. Eye focus with native lenses? It's insanely good, and if you're not using native, you can put medium spot over you're desired eye and nail it everytime.

Sony's AF on eye is something special, and the MF ability is simply head and shoulders better than what DSLR's can provide. Just have a look into the A7 threads, so many MF shooters, way more than DSLR users. There are some otus users as well if you look in the images thread.


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Apr 20, 2016 12:54 |  #19

I just ordered a split prism screen. :love:


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Apr 20, 2016 13:22 as a reply to  @ icor1031's post |  #20

what screen did you order? I may consider for my 6D.

I recently added a fujifilm XT-1 - with a Zeiss Touit 32mm f1.8 Planar. On this 1.5x body, this lens is a FOV equivalent of 48mm f1.8 AUTOFOCUS lens. nice.

Here's hoping that Zeiss someday (soon?) expands their lenses in this line and that they offer them in additional mounts.

These tired, old eyes of mine would sure appreciate a strong line of AF lenses in EF or Nikon mounts.

Oh well...

enjoy your Otus!
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Apr 20, 2016 13:24 |  #21

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what screen did you order? I may consider for my 6D.

I recently added a fujifilm XT-1 - with a Zeiss Touit 32mm f1.8 Planar. On this 1.5x body, this lens is a FOV equivalent of 48mm f1.8 AUTOFOCUS lens. nice.

Here's hoping that Zeiss someday (soon?) expands their lenses in this line and that they offer them in additional mounts.

These tired, old eyes of mine would sure appreciate a strong line of AF lenses in EF or Nikon mounts.

Oh well...

enjoy your Otus!
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Apr 20, 2016 13:26 as a reply to  @ icor1031's post |  #22

thanks. will review.

NT $2,700 or about $85 + for a focusing screen. not cheap...




  
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Apr 25, 2016 11:37 |  #23

Here's a lame comparison, sigma vs otus.
I easily see a difference - especially where microcontrast is shown.

Also, granger has a beautiful comparison: https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=sqervhmgse0 (external link)

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Apr 25, 2016 11:38 |  #24

daleg wrote in post #17978596 (external link)
thanks. will review.

NT $2,700 or about $85 + for a focusing screen. not cheap...

Did you decide to not get it?


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A split screen will only work well with 1D bodies.


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Apr 25, 2016 11:52 |  #26

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A split screen will only work well with 1D bodies.

Why do you say that?


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icor1031v2 wrote in post #17984460 (external link)
Why do you say that?

I don't, Canon does (external link)'


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Alveric wrote in post #17984466 (external link)
I don't, Canon does (external link)'

I've seen that before. Unless you're referencing a specific part I missed, that only lists compatibility.
My screen is custom - it's made to fit the 6d.


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Well, if you can report on performance it'd be appreciated. I'm also a Zeiss owner, and have had problems with accurate focusing where the focus confirmation blinks and beeps but the image still comes out with the focus in the wrong place.

Also note this: "Center spot metering will not be accurate with split-image, microprism, and double cross-hair reticle screens. Evaluative metering is also not recommended because of possible exposure inconsistencies. The best option with these screens is center-weighted average metering. A second option is spot metering linked to an off-center AF point (C.Fn I-7-1 with EOS-1D Mark III & Mark IV)". If that's the only problem with a split-screen, those of us using an incident lightmeter shouldn't be too concerned. However, I wonder if the AF and its points will work with such a screen and AF lenses: maybe you can test and tell us! :)


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Alveric wrote in post #17984487 (external link)
Well, if you can report on performance it'd be appreciated. I'm also a Zeiss owner, and have had problems with accurate focusing where the focus confirmation blinks and beeps but the image still comes out with the focus in the wrong place.

Also note this: "Center spot metering will not be accurate with split-image, microprism, and double cross-hair reticle screens. Evaluative metering is also not recommended because of possible exposure inconsistencies. The best option with these screens is center-weighted average metering. A second option is spot metering linked to an off-center AF point (C.Fn I-7-1 with EOS-1D Mark III & Mark IV)". If that's the only problem with a split-screen, those of us using an incident lightmeter shouldn't be too concerned. I wonder if the AF and its points will work with such a screen and AF lenses: maybe you can test and tell us! :)

AF is supposed to still work, read that a few times.
I'd seen about the center spot before, didn't think it would affect mine for some reason.. that'll be disappointing; will see how it goes.

My screen arrives today.


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