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Jul 23, 2016 00:21 as a reply to  @ post 18074992 |  #61

Thanks. I'll look into it and give it a try. Do you use their apps? They have some bad reviews.


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Jul 23, 2016 01:17 |  #62

Not sure which reviews you mean however Ive been using the apps for nearly 12 months and had no issues whatsoever. Maybe the reviewers where comparing with say OSX apps etc like File Manager etc although IMO the apps are not far behind OSX apps in regard to UI , stability and what services they perform . They are just a little more complicated to setupo but once thats done they work as intended.

The jewels in the Synology app crown as far as Im concerned for my applications are File Station , Video Station and Surveillance station. These 3 apps are Synology designed apps and thus have 100% compatibility with DSM. Also another good app to get is Synologys "download station" that is a browser plugin for torrent download. Also apple TV now have a Synology Video app in it App store which streamlines video streaming from your NAS to your apple TV. Its great as it does away with having to use 3rd party apps like Plex etc. Simple to use and very compatible with most video formats .


All in all if I had to rate Synolgy designed apps like the ones I have mentioned above I would easily give them a 7-8 out of 10 based on features of app and stability. ....Re stability I have not had one crash ....touch wood......since purchasing it and thats a lot better stability than I can say for any other piece of equipment or software that I currently use ...and thats Mac hardware included!...:)...

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Jul 23, 2016 21:03 as a reply to  @ post 18074992 |  #63

Thanks for the suggestion. It sounds like it might work, but I have to get home from my holiday before I can try that. It would have been nice if Synology had suggested that in the quick set-up guide. Pathetic initial guidance for a first time user, IMHO


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Jul 24, 2016 07:35 |  #64

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Thanks for the suggestion. It sounds like it might work, but I have to get home from my holiday before I can try that. It would have been nice if Synology had suggested that in the quick set-up guide. Pathetic initial guidance for a first time user, IMHO

Use this link below to help setup NAS. I posted it earlier in this thread. It explains everything. Although the author uses a different Synology product the concept is exactly the same as is the older version dsm and apps he uses


http://paulstamatiou.c​om …for-photographers-part-2/ (external link)


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Jul 24, 2016 11:46 |  #65

mike_d wrote in post #18074069 (external link)
I would be very reluctant to put my NAS on the Internet. There's several more secure ways to accomplish it though.

1) Remote control your home computer via TeamViewer, GoToMyPC, or LogmeIn

2) Establish a VPN connection to your home network

3) Put the files you need remote access to on a service like Dropbox.


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Jul 24, 2016 11:57 |  #66

So far I haven't used a NAS for my personal home stuff. I have a 5TB drive that is closely maxed and I use an external 5TB drive to backup this drive. One nice thing about keeping the drive internal is the fact you get to use Backblaze.... which I do.

Backblaze will backup any drive internally and any USB connected drive. My backblaze is currently sitting at 3.7TB because I only backup my important documents, lightroom catalog and any other home videos that are not in lightroom. Yes it took awhile to backup but it just works seamlessly.

At work we do use a QNAP TVS-471 which is a bit expensive but the company went that route for some unknown reason. Can be found here: https://www.amazon.com …8-1&keywords=qnap+Tvs-471 (external link)

Even though I'm the construction superintendent on the project my computer background makes me the on site IT man so I'm the one who maintains the Qnap and have found it to be one excellent product. We loaded 4 - 512gb SSD drives and had zero issue of 15-20 users directly working from the drive as the primary source for jobsite file structure.

I myself personally would like to buy a Qnap but need to figure out if you can connect directly to the qnap via USB so that way my backblaze will back it up. Backblaze currently does not offer integration to network drives.


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Jul 24, 2016 11:59 |  #67

Talley wrote in post #18076198 (external link)
FYI I was a religious Teamviewer user until one morning I woke up and someone was operating my computer remotely trying to login to my Paypal to purchase Itune gift cards. I no longer use their service.

Don't re-use passwords and enable 2 factor authentication. I followed the "TV was hacked" stories and none of them held up.




  
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Jul 24, 2016 12:23 |  #68

mike_d wrote in post #18076221 (external link)
Don't re-use passwords and enable 2 factor authentication. I followed the "TV was hacked" stories and none of them held up.

This.
I also use TV and on top of a unique password and 2FA, I whitelisted only my account to connect to any of my computers.




  
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Aug 31, 2016 21:48 |  #69

Going to need one as my main drives are full. Either thinking Synology 415+ or the Qnap 451+. Any recommendations between the two. Drives wise WD red 4TB.


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Aug 31, 2016 21:49 |  #70

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Going to need one as my main drives are full. Either thinking Synology 415+ or the Qnap 451+. Any recommendations between the two. Drives wise WD red 4TB.

Do these NAS boxes offer 2factor authentication when accessing from outside your house? Also I didn't understand why allowing TV into your home machine would be safe but not putting NAS on the net.


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Aug 31, 2016 21:58 |  #71

When you put a NAS on the Internet, you're exposing a Linux based server to the sh*t storm of attacks from around the world. Are you qualified to defend your NAS from that? I'm sure as heck not.

With TeamViewer, you need to know the computer's ID and password to access it. Authentication is done by TV's servers which have full time system admins. In addition to 2FA, you can restrict what devices your computer will even talk to. As far as I know, Synology doesn't support 2FA.




  
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Sep 01, 2016 00:23 |  #72

bobbyz wrote in post #18113152 (external link)
Going to need one as my main drives are full. Either thinking Synology 415+ or the Qnap 451+. Any recommendations between the two. Drives wise WD red 4TB.

I have two Qnap 451's. One is my main media server as well as my whole house backup device, the other acts strictly as a backup to the main NAS. I have all of the outward facing services turned off. These two NAS unites replaced my old Qnap 509 Pro's which worked well for me in the same capacity for years.


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Sep 01, 2016 08:27 |  #73

For photographs use, I would assume 2GB should enough RAM. Not doing any Plex stuff for now.


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Sep 01, 2016 08:32 |  #74

mike_d wrote in post #18113161 (external link)
When you put a NAS on the Internet, you're exposing a Linux based server to the sh*t storm of attacks from around the world. Are you qualified to defend your NAS from that? I'm sure as heck not.

With TeamViewer, you need to know the computer's ID and password to access it. Authentication is done by TV's servers which have full time system admins. In addition to 2FA, you can restrict what devices your computer will even talk to. As far as I know, Synology doesn't support 2FA.

Thanks. I know TV does authentication from their side but you still allowing connection from outside world to your PC in the home. Also I wish there access control was easier to manage but this is for multi-user environment. I have some 20 machines running TV.


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Sep 01, 2016 11:35 |  #75

bobbyz wrote in post #18113477 (external link)
For photographs use, I would assume 2GB should enough RAM. Not doing any Plex stuff for now.


I have 3TB x 4 inside a 415+ with 2g ram and use it for sharing edited images with a work colleague who accesses remotely so we are both inside the box at same time either exporting RAWs or saving edits from it and Ive never seen the system reporting anywhere near its max processing capacity of 100%. So unless you have the NAS doing some real heavy lifting like decoding /encoding multiple movies etc then I think you will be fine with 2GIG .


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