You guys that own both bodies are the ones that can answer the question..take some bounced flash shots indoors with the two bodies...try and keep everything the same so the only variable is the body
jay125 the title fairy put me in therapy  More info | ^^ This. And then show us the images. Now I'm interested as well. I have no desire to buy the 80D, as I have even more camera's than the person a few posts back so I have no need for yet another camera, but I'd like to know if the issue is addressed. I did own the 70D, and it did have the bounced flash issue. In every other way for me, it was a stellar camera, and I passed it on to a friend who uses it for video.
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Bassat "I am still in my underwear." 8,075 posts Likes: 2742 Joined Oct 2015 More info |  Permanent banI agree with WilsonFlyer. The provenance of the issue is resolved. The thread will stay more relevant if we keep to the original issue: 80 & bounce flash. I don't have an 80D. I will reading along for reference.
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]  More info Post edited over 7 years ago by Wilt. | May 13, 2016 08:46 | #64 Bassat wrote in post #18005056  I agree with WilsonFlyer. The provenance of the issue is resolved. The thread will stay more relevant if we keep to the original issue: 80 & bounce flash. I don't have an 80D. I will reading along for reference. ^ and now that this is May 13, and BlakeC was going try to do testing today (according to his post), we can all wait with bated breath to hear the outcome! You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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Bassat "I am still in my underwear." 8,075 posts Likes: 2742 Joined Oct 2015 More info | May 13, 2016 10:08 | #65 Permanent banBait-breath? Sounds like my oldest cat.
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AlanU Cream of the Crop More info | May 13, 2016 13:36 | #66 I will seriously consider the 80D still regardless if it has a potential bounced flash issue. I'll be using it as a video camera and available light shooting anyways. If it truly has an issue that certainly is a big disappointment though...... 5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 24LmkII | 85 mkII L | | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
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omer Goldmember  More info Post edited over 7 years ago by omer. (2 edits in all) | May 14, 2016 10:21 | #67 So i had an hour to do some testing  Image hosted by forum (793109) © omer [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff. _______________
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May 14, 2016 10:27 | #68 now with flash 430EX II @ ETTL mode iso 400 Av 4.5 Tv 1/80 (these values with no flash yield dark image)  Image hosted by forum (793110) © omer [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.  Image hosted by forum (793111) © omer [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff. _______________
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May 14, 2016 10:29 | #69 And now same setup with 270EX  Image hosted by forum (793112) © omer [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.  Image hosted by forum (793113) © omer [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff. _______________
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omer Goldmember More info Post edited over 7 years ago by omer. (3 edits in all) | May 14, 2016 10:33 | #70 my initial conclusion - when Flash is in evaluative mode it seems to be about 0.5 stop darker than proper exposure, however when flash is on Average metering the exposure is about right (may be a 1/3 darker) _______________
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May 14, 2016 10:59 | #71 My experience with any camera I've ever used is diametrically opposed to these findings. The photos are darker with flash. Ettl should not behave this way. _______________
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May 14, 2016 12:04 | #72 I am not sure i get your point as my finding confirms that it is darker with flash _______________
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AlanU Cream of the Crop More info | May 14, 2016 12:20 | #73 I've used Average ETTL settings for my 5dmk2 and 5dmk3. I did not like the results I got bouncing flash with Evaluative. I guess the 80D follows the same trend I'm use too. 5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 24LmkII | 85 mkII L | | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
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May 14, 2016 12:33 | #74 I'm saying that every camera I've ever used has fven better more correctly exposed photos with h ettl flash than without in darker situations. Sorry for the confusion. _______________
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info Post edited over 7 years ago by Wilt. (9 edits in all) | May 14, 2016 13:10 | #75 I just thought I would offer this 40D series as a 'control' against which to judge 70D and 80D...
 One can see that with flash Evaluative it is a bit darker on the direct flash and bounce flash shots, but both are not much different from ambient-only shot! I suggest a comparable series, when folks shoot tests with the 70D and/or 80D, to judge flash exposure accuracy. You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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