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As long as you have enough pixels, you can crop it to the portrait mode. It won't matter. I will assure you that you don't have the time to switch in between landscape and portrait modes because the actions in the field won't wait for you. Two, when you switch, you have to change your AF point too. I NEVER use the center point unless the background information won't contribute to the story. Yes, you compose with your AF point in real time. Not in post!!!! :) When you leave your hand and to grab onto your vertical grip, you will lose time.

If you are shooting some slow pace sports, maybe you have plenty of times to play around. I shoot cycling races. I only have about 6s to 10s to capture what I need before the field passes me.


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May 01, 2016 21:18 |  #17

Depends on the sport and your placement to the action.


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May 02, 2016 06:46 |  #18

TooManyShots wrote in post #17991901 (external link)
I NEVER use the center point unless the background information won't contribute to the story. Yes, you compose with your AF point in real time. Not in post!!!! :)

The 6D only has one cross type AF point, and it is the centre point. The 6D can do a good job of sports, but only with the centre point. Using any other focus point on that camera for anything moving is asking for failure.


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The 6D only has one cross type AF point, and it is the centre point. The 6D can do a good job of sports, but only with the centre point. Using any other focus point on that camera for anything moving is asking for failure.


Sorry, I haven't been following Canon for a while. I am a Nikon shooter. :) So, the 6D is a glorified 5d classic with a 30d AF system? I supposed my $350 D7000 (on the used market) will run circles around the Canon 6D. :) :)


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Sorry, I haven't been following Canon for a while. I am a Nikon shooter. :) So, the 6D is a glorified 5d classic with a 30d AF system? I supposed my $350 D7000 (on the used market) will run circle around the Canon 6D. :) :)

The 5D and 30D shared about the same AF system. The 6D has a better overall AF system. How much better?

Taken from various online reviews...

The bottom line is that the EOS 6D's phase detection autofocus system is about identical to that in the 5D Mark II, at least in terms of center point accuracy. It may be worlds better in low light, Servo mode, or with peripheral sensors; I can’t comment on that. And even if it doesn't rival that of the 5D Mark III, I actually didn’t find the EOS 5D Mark II's center point autofocus bad at all.

Probably the biggest feature difference between the Canon EOS 6D and the 5D or 1D-family bodies is autofocus. The Canon 6D’s 11-point AF system also offers the strongest low light performance of any DSLR on the market. With focusing down to EV-3, the equivalent of moonlight, subjects remain in-focus in even the most challenging lighting conditions – offering the freedom to shoot landscapes or portraits at night and capture the true atmosphere of the scene with minimal noise. Compare this to the -2 on the 5D Mark III, and the -0.5 on the 5D Mark II. This is a clear win for me as I often use ND filters (up to 10-stops of light) to push exposure times and occasionally rely on autofocus bracketing to obtain critical sharpness. It accurately and predictably locks on subjects even if the viewfinder is black. Amazing

No reason to beat around the bush: this has been one of the Canon 6D’s biggest questions marks since it offers a much less comprehensive autofocus system than either the Canon 5D Mark III or the D600. Canon has touted its sensitive center cross-type point, which is rated for use in darker environments than the 5D Mark III’s, as a key differentiator between this and competitors, including the older but still available 5D Mark II, and for good reason.

The center point is indeed a very impressive, responsive and fast AF point, as tested in a number of environments and lighting situations, with a range of lenses. It hardly ever hunts for focus, even when going from infinite to something quite close. Canon has done a very good job here, and that’s likely perfect for anyone who generally uses the focus and recompose method of taking pictures anyway. But those side points are a different story.

First, they’re distributed in a fairly tight grouping towards the middle of the frame, so even when you select outer points you’re not getting all that far away from center. Second, they’re a far cry from the accurate middle point, and especially in low light situations, you’ll find them hunting quite a bit, and often coming up short, unless you’re pointing at a very high contrast subject. I’d hesitate to say the outer AF points are a noticeable improvement from even those on the T3i, in fact. The good news is that with an external flash attached that carries an AF assist beam, focus limitations are mitigated considerably. The bad news is, you won’t get the outer reach of either the 5D Mark III or the D600.


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May 02, 2016 20:10 |  #21

the 6D was the perfect platform for canon to truly field real world test it's sensitive center point. They slapped it in the camera that allowed them to test it and get real feedback. Now they are increasing this capability to all their newer cameras.

80D with its 45 point AF system is good to -3EV is one example.

For Canon the 6D proved facts and provided a major success to it's successor... just wait :) You'll see.


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May 03, 2016 05:00 |  #22

TooManyShots wrote in post #17993053 (external link)
Sorry, I haven't been following Canon for a while

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May 03, 2016 08:51 |  #23

TooManyShots wrote in post #17993053 (external link)
Sorry, I haven't been following Canon for a while. I am a Nikon shooter. :) So, the 6D is a glorified 5d classic with a 30d AF system? I supposed my $350 D7000 (on the used market) will run circles around the Canon 6D. :) :)

I've been a Canon user since 1987. I don't know anything about Nikons (or any other brand with the exception of Fuji).

It is possible that the D7000 could run circles around the 6D for some things. The 6D is, for my purposes, predominantly a landscape and astrophotography camera. It has a phenomenal centre focus point, has great IQ, excellent low light ISO performace, and is a light and easily portable FF body. There are definitely some things I prefer to use it for over my 5D3.

At the same time, I've shot ice-hockey with the 6D. Working with the centre focus point, the keepers were excellent. It is a slower body (FPS, shutter lag, etc.), but when one knows the limitations of the focus system and compensates for those limitations, truly excellent photographs can be produced.

For outdoor sports like baseball, the 6D's centre focus point could be really awesome: specifically at twilight or when the players are backlit.


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