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Nov 18, 2018 16:10 |  #4711

I had to do some cleaning the first weeks or so, but never since then.


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Nov 18, 2018 16:58 |  #4712

Experienced something cool today: there were Starlings flying about finding breakfast, and I decided to try some BIF. With the 100-400 II, camera in all-points AI-Servo, I was able to get the camera to lock on and track them, and actually get in-focused shots. Never had this kind of prowess with the 5D4, it always seemed just a small step behind, so I really haven't been one to even attempt BIF. Frankly, I'm blown away.

The oil spatter issue, I've read about it as well; since I'm a CPS member and a clean is a quick turnaround due to Canon being relatively close, I am not sweating it. Yes, it sucks, especially for the money spent, and it was actually part of what initially kept me from wanting to keep this camera. But, if it isn't affecting my photos (I rarely shoot smaller than f/8) I can live with it. In my book, the benefits outweigh this inconvenience.




  
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Nov 19, 2018 00:35 |  #4713

apersson850 wrote in post #18753806 (external link)
I had to do some cleaning the first weeks or so, but never since then.

Can you tell us a bit more how you clean your sensor.
Only with air or wet cleaning with swabs,and wat liquid you use for this.


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Nov 19, 2018 00:43 |  #4714

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Have Canon sorted out the oil splatter problem on the later builds? I have just stumbled on this issue and have read about this matter and it is concerning me, it could very possibly influence my decision not to buy the 1DX2 and go with the 5D4. Getting it sorted through warranty would prove quite expensive for me- two plane journey (I hate flying with a passion!!) and 150 kms driving to and fro to the airport, this is also a major factor to consider. I've had enough of this with my 7D2.
It has been mentioned that shooting the 1DX2 at high burst rates in higher temperatures makes the oil more viscus (obviously) and this can lead to the contamination, the temp in Crete can get up to 40c in the Summer so oil splatter is going to happen unless Canon have sorted it out. I am not paying £5K+ on a camera I can only use when it's cold!!

So 1DX2 shooters what is the state of play regarding this please.


That was exactly the thing , that I have choose the 5dIV.
If that oil splatter issue wasn´t there i would already buy one.

I have spoke here with people who own a 1dx II , and some have to clean once every 20 K , and some every 1500 shots.

Feels for me like a sort of a gamble ,you get a good or a bad one.

Should not have to be the case with such a expensive piece of equipment.

My 5d IV is one year old and till yet i have never cleaned him.

My 1dx I i clean 2 or 3 times a year, but there are also a lot of them having the same oil splatter issue.

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Nov 19, 2018 02:49 |  #4715

Thank you Weja.
MatthewK, I'm a CPS member too, its the cost of getting to the technician to get it fixed. Even if I lived in the UK it would be a bit of a journey.
'apersson850' what cleaning was involved, how heavy was the oil splatter?
Looking at the 'cause' it seems constant high speed>14fps shooting is the main culprit.
This is putting a dampener on things now, I was so looking forward to buying this camera.

Any more opinions ? There are over a hundred 1DX2 owners on this forum.


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Nov 19, 2018 03:17 |  #4716

Well, I don't know how to define how much dirt there was on the sensor, sans having a suitable photo, taken with minimum aperture. But I haven't saved any such photo.
Anyway, I thought it was too much, so I bought some ready-to-use swabs from a photo dealer here in Sweden. I actually got them for my 1DX, which required a few cleanings the first few months I had it. Since then, no issue to talk about.
When I got my 1DX Mark II, it also required some cleaning to begin with. I used the same method.
Now I'm not a professional, taking thousands of pictures every day. But it happens that I take thousands of pictures in a day, occasionally. The splatter (if that's what it was, but I think so) has not come back.

Don't let this stop you from acquiring a 1DX/1DX Mark II. They are by far the best cameras I've ever had.


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Nov 19, 2018 04:16 |  #4717

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Thank you Weja.
MatthewK, I'm a CPS member too, its the cost of getting to the technician to get it fixed. Even if I lived in the UK it would be a bit of a journey.
'apersson850' what cleaning was involved, how heavy was the oil splatter?
Looking at the 'cause' it seems constant high speed>14fps shooting is the main culprit.
This is putting a dampener on things now, I was so looking forward to buying this camera.

Any more opinions ? There are over a hundred 1DX2 owners on this forum.

Having just gone through this decision myself, and tipped in favor of buying (obviously), I can relate to your anxiety. This oil spatter thing, along with already owning a 5D4 that I'm 100% happy with, almost stopped me from buying. Since you're not in a position to have it cleaned if the issue becomes severe, and if it'll cause you anxiety going forward, I would pass on buying and go 5D4. It's a solid, mature product that I would recommend to anyone. It'll will deliver the goods when demanded, and the output from that sensor is a joy to work with. With the prices steadily dropping, it's becoming more and more of a deal. Good luck with your decision, I'm keeping an eye on which way you go :)

From my reading, 1DX2 owners from earlier this year were still experiencing spatter, so it's safe to say it's still an ongoing issue. I'm not going to go shoot white walls at f/22 in search for problems, but I will definitely report back if this to impact my normal work.




  
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Nov 19, 2018 04:21 |  #4718

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This is a gorgeous shot, on so many levels. I know this is a thread dedicated to the camera body, but I think the experienced photographer expertly employing a 135L is where the credit is due :)




  
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Nov 19, 2018 06:47 |  #4719

apersson850 wrote in post #18754200 (external link)
Well, I don't know how to define how much dirt there was on the sensor, sans having a suitable photo, taken with minimum aperture. But I haven't saved any such photo.
Anyway, I thought it was too much, so I bought some ready-to-use swabs from a photo dealer here in Sweden. I actually got them for my 1DX, which required a few cleanings the first few months I had it. Since then, no issue to talk about.
When I got my 1DX Mark II, it also required some cleaning to begin with. I used the same method.
Now I'm not a professional, taking thousands of pictures every day. But it happens that I take thousands of pictures in a day, occasionally. The splatter (if that's what it was, but I think so) has not come back.

Don't let this stop you from acquiring a 1DX/1DX Mark II. They are by far the best cameras I've ever had.

MatthewK wrote in post #18754215 (external link)
Having just gone through this decision myself, and tipped in favor of buying (obviously), I can relate to your anxiety. This oil spatter thing, along with already owning a 5D4 that I'm 100% happy with, almost stopped me from buying. Since you're not in a position to have it cleaned if the issue becomes severe, and if it'll cause you anxiety going forward, I would pass on buying and go 5D4. It's a solid, mature product that I would recommend to anyone. It'll will deliver the goods when demanded, and the output from that sensor is a joy to work with. With the prices steadily dropping, it's becoming more and more of a deal. Good luck with your decision, I'm keeping an eye on which way you go :)

From my reading, 1DX2 owners from earlier this year were still experiencing spatter, so it's safe to say it's still an ongoing issue. I'm not going to go shoot white walls at f/22 in search for problems, but I will definitely report back if this to impact my normal work.

Thanks guys.


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Nov 20, 2018 12:00 |  #4720

Oil splatter issue only really rears it's head if you 'machine gun' shoot, the shutter is obscenely fast so the oil is needed. YES it's a little annoying - had mine done by CPS after first race season then just wet clean when needed, probably done it 3 times in nearly 200,000+ shots! I try to 'get the shot' in one, occasionally I shoot off two frames - especially if it's cold / wet and my fingers don't work as they should lol.

Seriously guys and girls - DON'T be put off by it, usually you wont see it anyway unless your doing really slow panning with high aperture and if you do get it, it really is a simple clean.

Use THESE (external link) guys for all my cleaning kit.

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Nov 21, 2018 06:42 |  #4721

David Stallard wrote in post #18755133 (external link)
Oil splatter issue only really rears it's head if you 'machine gun' shoot, the shutter is obscenely fast so the oil is needed. YES it's a little annoying - had mine done by CPS after first race season then just wet clean when needed, probably done it 3 times in nearly 200,000+ shots! I try to 'get the shot' in one, occasionally I shoot off two frames - especially if it's cold / wet and my fingers don't work as they should lol.

Seriously guys and girls - DON'T be put off by it, usually you wont see it anyway unless your doing really slow panning with high aperture and if you do get it, it really is a simple clean.

Use THESE (external link) guys for all my cleaning kit.

.DAVID.

Thanks David, that is a little bit more reassuring news.


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Nov 23, 2018 14:50 |  #4722

You guys/gals were totally right, this camera is just awesome. Frankly, I didn't think it would win me over and I'd be having buyer's remorse. Not sure what it is, because the 5D4 is very similar in function, but I'm coming to realize the small things that set them apart:

- metering linked to AF point. Hello...
- the White Balance is just about perfect, hardly any adjustment needed in post.
- it gets the exposure right when using auto-ISO in M... my 5D4 requires -2/3 of a stop, or else things get blown over exposed.
- my photos seem to have slightly better detail/clarity right out of camera. Pretty sure this is due to the larger pixels (or whatever), and not it being the shiny new thing, but I'm liking the shots
- thought I'd not deal with the full size body well, but it's really grown on me.
- Finally, the 100-400II on this camera makes for such a bad-a** combo.


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Nov 23, 2018 17:32 |  #4723

MatthewK wrote in post #18757085 (external link)
You guys/gals were totally right, this camera is just awesome. Frankly, I didn't think it would win me over and I'd be having buyer's remorse. Not sure what it is, because the 5D4 is very similar in function, but I'm coming to realize the small things that set them apart:

- metering linked to AF point. Hello...
- the White Balance is just about perfect, hardly any adjustment needed in post.
- it gets the exposure right when using auto-ISO in M... my 5D4 requires -2/3 of a stop, or else things get blown over exposed.
- my photos seem to have slightly better detail/clarity right out of camera. Pretty sure this is due to the larger pixels (or whatever), and not it being the shiny new thing, but I'm liking the shots
- thought I'd not deal with the full size body well, but it's really grown on me.
- Finally, the 100-400II on this camera makes for such a bad-a** combo.

And those are just the initial benefits you have found..... dig deeper and your will find more.

Synergy is a word that comes to mind..... the end result is greater than the sum of the differences.


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Nov 24, 2018 02:36 |  #4724

MatthewK wrote in post #18757085 (external link)
You guys/gals were totally right, this camera is just awesome. Frankly, I didn't think it would win me over and I'd be having buyer's remorse. Not sure what it is, because the 5D4 is very similar in function, but I'm coming to realize the small things that set them apart:

- metering linked to AF point. Hello...
- the White Balance is just about perfect, hardly any adjustment needed in post.
- it gets the exposure right when using auto-ISO in M... my 5D4 requires -2/3 of a stop, or else things get blown over exposed.
- my photos seem to have slightly better detail/clarity right out of camera. Pretty sure this is due to the larger pixels (or whatever), and not it being the shiny new thing, but I'm liking the shots
- thought I'd not deal with the full size body well, but it's really grown on me.
- Finally, the 100-400II on this camera makes for such a bad-a** combo.
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You're not helping at all you know!!-?


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Nov 24, 2018 02:39 |  #4725

I guess this wont help either Derek... ISO 5000....

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