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May 11, 2016 01:19 |  #586

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Did you notice the difference between the 1DX II and its predecessor? In term of colour, sharpness, etc (IQ stuffs)? Is it worth the upgrade?




  
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May 11, 2016 02:26 |  #587

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Did you notice the difference between the 1DX II and its predecessor? In term of colour, sharpness, etc (IQ stuffs)? Is it worth the upgrade?

Hm... IQ stuff. Well, so far, in terms of color, it's different. 5500K in LR for the 1DX2 seems different than 5500K for 1DX. It's a mild annoyance (since I've been accustomed to 5D3, 1DX and 7D2 being relatively close). And I don't know if it's because it's a new sensor, or if it's just LR/ACR. It's not a big issue. Just something new to get acquainted with.

Sharpness. That's a lens thing to me and I've found no difference in terms of sharpness of the images from either camera.

"Is it worth the upgrade?"

That's a subjective question and to *me*, it seems worth it. I certainly haven't found anything that has made me regret getting the Mark II. I like that it does pick-up and lock focus faster. The 1DX was no slouch in the AF department, but it TRULY is noticeably faster than its predecessor and that's impressive on its own.

I like the shutter sound better. It's not as clang-y sounding. I didn't expect 14fps to sound that much different than 12fps, but it is different. Like, "Holy <insert expletive>!" Strange, but gratifying.

There is a long list of improvements over the predecessor and the camera as a whole is fantastic.

But I'm sure to some/many, the 1DX2 is just not "worth" parting their money for over the 1DX. And I can certainly respect that should they hold that opinion.


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May 11, 2016 03:53 |  #588

i should be ordering one soon. i have a mark 4 and its still a superb camera for sports. people think 5k is a lot of money but its a camera where you still be using in tens years time so 500 a year is nothing really.




  
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May 11, 2016 03:54 |  #589

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Hm... IQ stuff. Well, so far, in terms of color, it's different. 5500K in LR for the 1DX2 seems different than 5500K for 1DX. It's a mild annoyance (since I've been accustomed to 5D3, 1DX and 7D2 being relatively close)....

That's a subjective question and to *me*, it seems worth it. I certainly haven't found anything that has made me regret getting the Mark II. I like that it does pick-up and lock focus faster. The 1DX was no slouch in the AF department, but it TRULY is noticeably faster than its predecessor and that's impressive on its own.

Out of interest (seeing as you mention the 5D3) how does the AF on the 5D3 compare to the 1Dx? If that was already a reasonable gap then I guess the next 5D should be an improvement (given everyone seems to think the 1Dx2 is noticeably faster than the 1Dx).


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14 FPS fricken Rocks. Definitely a Johnson grab here. Wish I would of had the TC on. Got him with a 300L and cropped in a bit

How on earth do you grab your Johnson whilst wielding a 1Dx2 and a 300L? I guess that's why I'm not a pro ;-)a


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May 11, 2016 04:35 |  #590

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Out of interest (seeing as you mention the 5D3) how does the AF on the 5D3 compare to the 1Dx? If that was already a reasonable gap then I guess the next 5D should be an improvement (given everyone seems to think the 1Dx2 is noticeably faster than the 1Dx).

How on earth do you grab your Johnson whilst wielding a 1Dx2 and a 300L? I guess that's why I'm not a pro ;-)a

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May 11, 2016 07:29 |  #592

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That's why pros have an assistant :-)

Of course - a Johnson holder ;-)a


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May 11, 2016 07:43 |  #593

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Fantastic image; care to share the lighting details? thx


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Hm... IQ stuff. Well, so far, in terms of color, it's different. 5500K in LR for the 1DX2 seems different than 5500K for 1DX. It's a mild annoyance (since I've been accustomed to 5D3, 1DX and 7D2 being relatively close). And I don't know if it's because it's a new sensor, or if it's just LR/ACR. It's not a big issue. Just something new to get acquainted with.

Sharpness. That's a lens thing to me and I've found no difference in terms of sharpness of the images from either camera.

"Is it worth the upgrade?"

That's a subjective question and to *me*, it seems worth it. I certainly haven't found anything that has made me regret getting the Mark II. I like that it does pick-up and lock focus faster. The 1DX was no slouch in the AF department, but it TRULY is noticeably faster than its predecessor and that's impressive on its own.

I like the shutter sound better. It's not as clang-y sounding. I didn't expect 14fps to sound that much different than 12fps, but it is different. Like, "Holy <insert expletive>!" Strange, but gratifying.

There is a long list of improvements over the predecessor and the camera as a whole is fantastic.

But I'm sure to some/many, the 1DX2 is just not "worth" parting their money for over the 1DX. And I can certainly respect that should they hold that opinion.

Nice opinion, as the 1DXII owner who also own the 1DX you seems really happy with the upgrade. Btw, for the first time i was amazed by 50L, from your posts. That's the reason why i'm asking you, your shots looks amazing, i don't know is it because the camera or the lens. ;-)a

Is performance of an old lens like 135L will be reduced if attached to canon latest cameras such as 1DXII or 5D4 just like what happened to 135L + 5DSR combo?? The 135L can't maintain its performance, based on dxomark. Even the cheaper but newer 35 f2 IS has more sharpness. Hope this is just a megapixel thing.




  
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May 11, 2016 08:34 |  #594

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You live in a nice part of the world.


Thank you.

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May 11, 2016 08:49 |  #595

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That's why pros have an assistant :-)


I rarely use an assistant

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May 11, 2016 10:52 |  #596

sploo wrote in post #18003273 (external link)
Out of interest (seeing as you mention the 5D3) how does the AF on the 5D3 compare to the 1Dx? If that was already a reasonable gap then I guess the next 5D should be an improvement (given everyone seems to think the 1Dx2 is noticeably faster than the 1Dx).

From what I remember, I would say AF on the 1DX felt between 10-25% faster, depending on the lens you're using. For a lens like the 85L, the higher voltage battery drives the motor faster and you really notice the difference. But on bright sunny days or good lighting, the difference is a lot smaller between the 5D3 and 1DX. The 1DX2 feels snappier to want to focus. Kind of like it's hyped up on caffeine and eager to focus.

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Nice opinion, as the 1DXII owner who also own the 1DX you seems really happy with the upgrade. Btw, for the first time i was amazed by 50L, from your posts. That's the reason why i'm asking you, your shots looks amazing, i don't know is it because the camera or the lens. ;-)a

Is performance of an old lens like 135L will be reduced if attached to canon latest cameras such as 1DXII or 5D4 just like what happened to 135L + 5DSR combo?? The 135L can't maintain its performance, based on dxomark. Even the cheaper but newer 35 f2 IS has more sharpness. Hope this is just a megapixel thing.

:lol: Wow. Thanks for the kind words. As much as I'd like to take some credit, I'm really just an idiot with gear. The 50L is like the most expensive worse lens anyone can buy/own. However, to me (and to many fellow owners), there's just something about it that is difficult to put into words. Maybe I've been drinking too much of the spiked Kool-Aid. It's far from the sharpest 50mm. It vignets like nobody's business wide-open. It's pretty heavy. Yet there's that certain je ne sais quoi about it. :lol: (drinks more Kool-Aid).

I didn't know there was an issue with 135L on the 5DS(R). Probably a megapixel thing but I have high regards for the 135L as well. It creates a nice "look" so I'm pretty sure that doesn't get changed even if you mount it on the 5DS(R). It's probably when you start pixel-peeping, that's when the pixel-level sharpness starts to show kinks in the armor.

Now, I say this in jest (though I'm half joking, half serious), since the 50L is not a "sharp" lens to begin with, the high-pixel density of the 5DS(R) probably makes the images look even more "dreamy" with that foggy blur. :lol:


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Hows the DR? as good as a sony sensor?


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May 11, 2016 13:59 |  #600

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Hows the DR? as good as a sony sensor?

DR's better than any previous Canon I've owned. I had started another thread on shadow-pushing between the 1DX2 and 1DX if you're bored enough to see. Link is somewhere in the previous pages.

I've never shot a Sony so I can't answer that question other than to direct you to DPreview and other review sites with studio testing showing you that while significantly improved, it seems that Sony's still got the edge in DR at iso100.


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