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Jun 06, 2016 17:09 |  #1216

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #18030934 (external link)
And now a little high ISO comparison (may want to close your eyes if you are not a Sony fanboy)

- the E-ZPass on the left is at / near the clipping point (that is how exposure was set)
- this time +2EV (not +3,EV)
- +100 Shadows and -100 highlights
- 1:3 crops in LR
- this is really a high ISO DR test - you can see with the 5DSR, at 12,800, if you are exposing for your brightest highlight at clipping point, and then pushing shadows, at 12,800 you are running out of DR and there is really no data to push if you have a High DR scenario at high ISO
- this type of exposure technique works at low base ISOs but above 6400 ISO you run out of room very quickly
- interesting point, and with more graphs to come, is that for the properly exposed part of the image (in this case the white E-ZPass on the left) high ISOs are ok for noise

- at 12,800, remember that the 1DXII has half the pixels of the A7RII, they look pretty close
- at 25,600, this is where the 1DxII has its biggest hit to noise, up until 12,800 everything is increasing more linearly - 12,800 to 25,600 is a bigger hit - that said, if the heart of picture is similarly lit, without extreme differences, (unlike this picture), while there is a substantial increase in noise versus 12,600, some NR and a little PP, and you can get a decent image - just remember, you don't have a lot of DR at this ISO to work miracles
- at 51,200, the Sony holds up remarkably well - for B&W web images you could use this ISO


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Looks like we are splittin hairs here until we hit 51000 ISO....there are very darn close.


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Jun 06, 2016 17:32 |  #1217

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Speaking of shadows. I was (hell-bent) again wasting my time waiting on a Bluebird an off in the shadows a rarity for here appears. No time to change settings, turn and shoot.

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Very nice Flicker, especially getting the yellow undercarriage. I saw (and photographed) my very first Flicker juvenile a few days ago.. had two of them stop by for a chat :) Pretty photo or more accurately perhaps to say a very nice photo of avery pretty bird!




  
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Jun 06, 2016 17:47 |  #1218

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Jun 06, 2016 18:15 |  #1220

decided to try Capture 1 with the 1DX_II today

i know nothing about the software - always been LR + a little bit of PS person

this is just a quick shot outside of my youngest to try out the software

don't know if it was luck, but file came out much 'richer' and to my liking than LR - the browns were much better

i seriously don't want to learn anything new but may give it a real try over the next 30 day free trial

this was taken in Portrait but then cropped in landscape orientation

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Jun 06, 2016 18:20 |  #1221

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #18031314 (external link)
decided to try Capture 1 with the 1DX_II today

i know nothing about the software - always been LR + a little bit of PS person

this is just a quick shot outside of my youngest to try out the software

don't know if it was luck, but file came out much 'richer' and to my liking that LR - the browns were much better

i seriously don't want to learn anything new but may give it a real try over the next 30 day free trial

this was taken in Portrait but then cropped in landscape orientation

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Jun 06, 2016 18:51 |  #1222

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Jun 06, 2016 18:54 |  #1223

Chet wrote in post #18031321 (external link)
What does the original look like?

not the original but the LR edit

yes I don't know Capture 1 but i tried to do the similar things

the default Adobe Standard colours I think is some but not all of the difference

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Jun 06, 2016 20:56 as a reply to  @ jdavis37's post |  #1224

Only my second time seeing one here. I do wish they would call my area home more often.
thanks for the kind words.


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Jun 06, 2016 21:08 as a reply to  @ MedicineMan4040's post |  #1225

don't know if it was luck, but file came out much 'richer' and to my liking that LR - the browns were much better i seriously don't want to learn anything new but may give it a real try over the next 30 day free trial

IMO, C1, especially for pictures of people, renders much nicer color vs. LR. I take that back: C1 is a much better RAW renderer vs. LR, full stop.

However, you will probably find that LR has a much better (more mature) library/catalog ;)

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Jun 06, 2016 22:03 |  #1226

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #18031314 (external link)
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don't know if it was luck, but file came out much 'richer' and to my liking that LR - the browns were much better...


It's not luck, it's Capture One. Welcome to one of the most oddly big secrets in photography.


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Jun 06, 2016 22:12 |  #1227

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Jun 06, 2016 22:12 |  #1228

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Jun 06, 2016 23:32 |  #1229

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18031538 (external link)
It's not luck, it's Capture One. Welcome to one of the most oddly big secrets in photography.

How does Capture One compare to the Nik Collection?


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