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May 12, 2016 13:35 as a reply to  @ post 18004742 |  #16
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I'm out of ideas. I haven't used a split prism since my Yashica FX-2, or maybe FX-3 S2K. I remember being quite overjoyed with my first auto-focus camera. Proper delployment of AF, oddly enough, does require AF lenses. :) Good luck with your quest for an answer.




  
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May 12, 2016 13:37 |  #17

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I'm out of ideas. I haven't used a split prism since my Yashica FX-2, or maybe FX-3 S2K. I remember being quite overjoyed with my first auto-focus camera. Proper delployment of AF, oddly enough, does require AF lenses. :) Good luck with your quest for an answer.

AF is great for shots of moving subjects / or if I'm moving, so I keep my sigma 85 even though I have otus (haven't used it since I got otus, but I know I'll eventually want to.)

However, a good MF ring is very nice for studio shots and AF is useless for how I do them. :)

Thanks for trying ;)


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Just curious.... What AF lenses does your 6D not focus well? I use a variety of moderately fast primes. My 6D nails every one of them, wide open. I don't use MFA because I don't need it. I think I'd quit photography if I had to go back to MF.

Note: Several of those same lenses DID require MFA on my 70D. I grew weary of that body and sold it for a 1D3. The 1D3 is ACTUALLY a much better action camera than the 70D PRETENDS to be.




  
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May 12, 2016 13:57 |  #19

use a camera designed to shoot in live view/evf.

Sony mirrorless full frame. It's really your only option, dslr live view will be slow with any canon camera.


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May 12, 2016 13:58 |  #20

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Just curious.... What AF lenses does your 6D not focus well? I use a variety of moderately fast primes. My 6D nails every one of them, wide open. I don't use MFA because I don't need it. I think I'd quit photography if I had to go back to MF.

Note: Several of those same lenses DID require MFA on my 70D. I grew weary of that body and sold it for a 1D3. The 1D3 is ACTUALLY a much better action camera than the 70D PRETENDS to be.

I didn't say it fails to focus :p (it usually does well.)

I put my camera on a tripod and focus on posing, watching the person with my eyes - not through the small viewfinder or even the live view, much of the time.
And MF lets me nail perfect focus. AF is usually very close, but tends to not be exactly where I would have put it.
Plus, AF would require me to release the ball head's to achieve focus, then turn the camera (for framing) and lock the ball again. Ugh!


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May 12, 2016 13:59 |  #21

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use a camera designed to shoot in live view/evf.

Sony mirrorless full frame. It's really your only option, dslr live view will be slow with any canon camera.

yes, I think I'm going to go a7 r2 or equivalent if I start making $.


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May 12, 2016 14:01 as a reply to  @ icor1031's post |  #22
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Thanks. That makes sense. I just don't do that kind of stuff with my cameras. Same tools. Totally different jobs. I get it. Good luck.




  
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May 12, 2016 14:47 |  #23

icor1031 wrote in post #18004771 (external link)
I didn't say it fails to focus :p (it usually does well.)

I put my camera on a tripod and focus on posing, watching the person with my eyes - not through the small viewfinder or even the live view, much of the time.
And MF lets me nail perfect focus. AF is usually very close, but tends to not be exactly where I would have put it.
Plus, AF would require me to release the ball head's to achieve focus, then turn the camera (for framing) and lock the ball again. Ugh!

You have not been successful moving the AF zone in LV with the multi controller and using CDAF on the spot you want to focus on? CDAF is very accurate although slower than PDAF (which requires mirror down/up if used in LV). Focus recompose is never good with wide open lenses and shallow DoF, but you seem to be restricting yourself to the centre point if you are moving the camera to place the focus point?


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AJSJones wrote in post #18004817 (external link)
You have not been successful moving the AF zone in LV with the multi controller and using CDAF on the spot you want to focus on? CDAF is very accurate although slower than PDAF (which requires mirror down/up if used in LV). Focus recompose is never good with wide open lenses and shallow DoF, but you seem to be restricting yourself to the centre point if you are moving the camera to place the focus point?

OP is focusing manually. CDAF/PDAF are totally irrelevant.




  
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May 12, 2016 17:15 |  #25

Bassat wrote in post #18004945 (external link)
OP is focusing manually. CDAF/PDAF are totally irrelevant.

Did you actually read the comment the OP made that I quoted and was commenting on??? (As OP said, Ugh!:D )

AF is usually very close, but tends to not be exactly where I would have put it. Plus, AF would require me to release the ball head's to achieve focus, then turn the camera (for framing) and lock the ball again. Ugh!


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AJSJones wrote in post #18004950 (external link)
Did you actually read the comment the OP made that I quoted and was commenting on??? (As OP said, Ugh!:D )

Most certainly did. That was the OP's reply to me. He is stating why he is NOT using any type of AF. That is my understanding of it.

We seem to be reading the same thing and taking opposing meanings from it. One of us is confused. It has been my experience, that when I am in a mis-understanding type of scenario, it is usually me who is doing the mis-understanding. I'll just read along for now.




  
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May 12, 2016 18:24 |  #27

I believe he's telling me how I *could* use an AF lens without difficulty.

BTW, it still won't land on the eye???


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May 12, 2016 19:57 |  #28

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Most certainly did. That was the OP's reply to me. He is stating why he is NOT using any type of AF. That is my understanding of it.

We seem to be reading the same thing and taking opposing meanings from it. One of us is confused. It has been my experience, that when I am in a mis-understanding type of scenario, it is usually me who is doing the mis-understanding. I'll just read along for now.

Yup - cross purposes:) He was describing using manual but I was explaining options to allow AF after he shared why he wasn't using it - hence my comment on AF. I don't know how many AF points the 6D has but if the eye cannot be placed under any of them, then a slightly wider framing could allow that (as could moving the AF zone in LV) Sounds like the eye is at the edge of the frame if neither works:) However, with ultra shallow DoF, zoomed in LV MF is the safest even with AF lenses:


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