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May 13, 2016 16:25 |  #1

Recently sold off all of my Canon gear and found out this past week that my wife is pregnant with twins so time to invest in a new system and I want to go mirrorless. Camera will primarily be used for taking pics of the kids obviously but with my Canon gear I very much enjoyed doing wildlife photography so I'm sure I'll venture into that as well.

Biggest things I like about the Fuji is their very well rated glass and its pricing and that it comes with a very good kit lens (18-55) and for wildlife I like that they offer a 100-400. That was my most used lens with my Canon gear.

For Sony the big perks would be their autofocus and video capabilities.

Right now I really don't have money to invest in other glass just the included kit lens if that's a big factor? Which would you pick between the two? Right now I'm leaning towards Fuji because of their lenses but I know my wife will want to take video of them and that's were I'd lean towards Sony so I'm torn between them right now.


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May 13, 2016 18:57 |  #2

I have a fuji x100s and a canon 5d2. I just bought a sony a6300 and it outshines both although they are great cameras. The af and iq on the sony are amazing.




  
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May 13, 2016 20:35 |  #3

This is a tough call.....

I would have to say your in trouble LOL!!! The A6300 will be great for Video but the lens selection will be expensive if your wanting high quality glass. You can always go the adapter route and use your Canon glass but that does defeat the purpose of a small light camera system. I'm still willing to try that route for curiosity. If Sony had the selection and "PRICE" that Fuji has in their lens lineup I would buy it in a heartbeat. The 25mm f/2 is $1300USD while the Fuji 16mm f/1.4 is $999. I'll have to say the fuji X-T10 with 16mm prime has been phenomenal!!!!

The X-T10 video is dreadful IMO. I experimented with it and did not care for it at all. However the Fuji look is definitely unlike any system out there. It has a pleasing presentation which is quite different to the Canon.

I guess as far as image quality is concerned I'd take Fuji X-T10 w/ 18-55 kit lens over Canon's newest crop sensor offering.

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May 13, 2016 23:02 |  #4

That's my dilemma I really like the Fuji lens line up but the wife already said tonight she wants something that does good video and I already sold all my Canon lenses so that's not an option with the sony body.

When I had canon gear I shot with a 7D and had my 100-400L on it 80% of the time I loved that Lens it was perfect for so much of what I shot so with Fuji offering there own version of it that's the way I'd lean with a few fast primes and it would cover probably everything I'd shoot for the next few years but I know the video on that platform is poor. I feel my mind is set on Fuji but how to please her is going to be the tough part...


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May 13, 2016 23:27 |  #5

BB70Chevelle wrote in post #18006406 (external link)
That's my dilemma I really like the Fuji lens line up but the wife already said tonight she wants something that does good video and I already sold all my Canon lenses so that's not an option with the sony body.

When I had canon gear I shot with a 7D and had my 100-400L on it 80% of the time I loved that Lens it was perfect for so much of what I shot so with Fuji offering there own version of it that's the way I'd lean with a few fast primes and it would cover probably everything I'd shoot for the next few years but I know the video on that platform is poor. I feel my mind is set on Fuji but how to please her is going to be the tough part...

Seriously please your wife :)

Depending on the amount of money you want to spend the Sony with kit lens cannot even compare to a Fuji X-T10 with 18-55 kit f/2.8-4.0 kit lens. The Fuji kit will provide absolutely incredible IQ for 1099USD ....IMO it's virtually unbeatable compared to any crop sensor camera/kit lens combo for that price.

Buying the latest panny gx8 Micro 4/3 system with any kit lens would cost a lot more but couldn't even come close in matching the IQ of the Fuji. I've been there done that........

It's a shame that the fuji system has terrible video. The AF video capabilities is not even usable.

The Fuji system for my family documentation can cover a good 95%. I loose some money shots since the AF is not incredibly fast. The AF is decent though....

To be honest I'd suggest buying an Sony RX100mk3 for your wife. IQ is scary good for a 1 inch sensor and the video capabilities will be very impressive. Do some research!!!!

Strategically push for the fuji as she falls in love with the RX100mk3. If you can afford the mk4 you may maximize the IQ and bells and whistles to even make you impressed.

You can always consider a mint used fuji with kit lens. The fuji system has knocked me off my feet since I never thought I'd like the RAW files. After I purchased the 16mm prime the silly lightweight camera system is now heavily used for a good percentage of my family documentation. I'd take the IQ of the fuji over a Canon 7D with 17-55IS anyday......seriously!​! (my personal opinion of course).

I'd be shocked if you hate an RX100 mk3 or mk4. It will satisfy your wife in the video application without a doubt. IMO it'd be much better than a Sony A6300 with kit lens. If your spending $$$$$$ on a G master lens that'll be a different story.


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May 14, 2016 14:15 |  #6

As a third option what about going with the A6000 and the 18-105 F4 Sony lens vs these two? Price is very similar but it gives me a better lens vs the a6300 kit lens but am I giving up alot going with the older body?


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May 14, 2016 18:25 |  #7

If I were you the need for better video and tracking fast moving children (favor Sony) would outweigh the Fuji advantages (better glass, better JPEGs).




  
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May 14, 2016 19:55 |  #8

If going with sony the a6300 with kit lens is at the max end of my budget currently so would you rather have the a6300 body with kit lens or a6000 with better glass?


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May 14, 2016 21:40 |  #9

BB70Chevelle wrote in post #18007272 (external link)
If going with sony the a6300 with kit lens is at the max end of my budget currently so would you rather have the a6300 body with kit lens or a6000 with better glass?

If you want to shoot 4k then the A6300, otherwise I'd prob go with A6000




  
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May 19, 2016 03:52 |  #10

Having just done the research on a6300 vs a6000 there are various improvements. The main one for me was that it has the fastest Sony AF which drives Canon lenses much better via metabones. If this is not a factor then I think the a6000 is amazing value. One comment would be that for less than $100 I would get the kit lens along with whatever other glass you need - it is so compact when retracted that is gives you a really decent P&S option when you just want a camera along for the ride.




  
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May 19, 2016 09:04 |  #11

You've sold off several thousands of dollars in Canon-mount gear and your budget will only stretch to around the $1100USD price of the A6300 with a kit lens--is this correct?

I have a few thoughts:

--the kit lens would be "good enough" for most baby pics, but getting wow shots will take more effort without a wide-aperture lens.
--the Sony 18-105 F4 is a big lens, power-zoom as well.
--Fuji makes great gear, but like Sony you've got to pay to play
--consider shopping used to save yourself some serious money.
--The RX-100 line is fantastic, but the handling will frustrate you coming from a 7D if it is your only camera.
--Sony mirrorless is great for prime shooters, but you pay a premium for zooms.
--Going with adapted a-mount zooms like the 70-400Gii on the a6300 would give you pretty much native performance when you decide to shoot long again.
--At the risk of muddying the waters, you should really check out Panasonic. Their new 100-400 produces some cracking wildlife shots from what I've seen, and at $1800 new the price point is solid.


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May 19, 2016 09:41 |  #12

I have a few thoughts on the Sony A6300 vs A6000. I'm a recent 1DX upgrader from 5D3, and I used to own the A6000. See I bought the A6000 thinking that the video will be great as a B-camera to my Sony PXW-FS7, but back then it wasn't really good. The free XAVC-S codec upgrade made it a lot better, but I sold it before the firmware came out. Bummer.

Here's the thing though the A6300 is an evolution of the A6000, and if you're not too bothered about the whole 4K video thing, I would suggest plonking that money into an A6000 or two, and then get lenses. The A6000 HD video looks better than the A6300 HD, only because the A6300 line-skips for HD, while it does the full sensor 6K readout resized for 4K video.

I do plan on picking up an A6000 again, used of course, since upgrading to the 1DX and not having a lightweight street / social camera. I'm planning on the Samyang / Rokinon 12mm f/2 with the new Sigma 30mm f/1.4 DN, and the 55-210 just in case I'm lazy to bring the Canon kit out.


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May 19, 2016 09:53 as a reply to  @ mickeyb105's post |  #13

The money I got from selling my Canon gear went to doing things around the house as I was mostly getting out of the hobby but now learning that I'm having my first kids(twins) I want to get back into the hobby and don't have thousands to spend so I'm trying to find the best bang for my buck and even before selling off my Canon gear I was thinking about changing over to Fuji and at this point I think I may be sold on going with the x-e2s with either the 18-55 or the Fuji 35 F2. (Unless I come across a great deal on a X-T1) in the past I always preferred using zooms but in this case for doing new born photography I think having a faster prime may be better and later on I could add the 56mm and finally the 100-400 once they are big enough to run around outside and for the occasional wildlife photos.


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May 19, 2016 11:04 as a reply to  @ BB70Chevelle's post |  #14

Fuji will certainly be great for your current needs. And by the time your kids are moving fast enough to need really good AF, maybe Fuji will have caught up to Sony (current Sony anyway). Both of those lenses are great. You might consider adding a flash, like a Nissin i40 or something. I think about half of the photos of my kids at a young age used flash.


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May 20, 2016 12:24 |  #15

For your twins you do not need fast AF.

Even though I only have an 18-55 and 16mm f/1.4 for my Fuji gear I love the versatility. This basic kit has been extremely versatile for documenting my family (3 girls 9, 7, 3yrs). The fact that I am using my fuji alot for this application puts emphasis that it totally satisfies my needs in high IQ!!! Sure I'll use my Canon gear too but man.....I really love the IQ from this crop sensor.

Cost wise I think the fuji "kit" is the most economical way of getting incredible IQ. For your application this totally meets your needs for stills!!!

BB70....what happened to satisfying your wife with video capabilities???

Just to make you think more.......

For stills the price and image quality the Fuji is awesome. I'd suggest getting a NOS X-E2 and upgrade to firmware 4.0 to get to the same performance of the newer version.

Your wallet...not mine :) The Sony is truthfully the better way to go for video and great stills. You can go with a kit lens and 28mm f/2 prime to do majority of your family documentation needs. Even though I'd prefer the fuji for stills I'd suggest to you the Sony A6300 $$$$$ but for cheap the A6000 will do well for video indoors with the on board mic. You just have to buy alot of spare batteries as you shoot madly at your two lovely twins!!!

The A6300 has video jello effect (not so good) and for extended video the camera will overheat in about 20+minutes apparently. However for your needs I'm assuming you will NOT be shooting video that long of your babies.

So to sum it up!!! if your just wanting stills with a kit lens for now the fuji ROCKS!!! the 18-55 is fantastic even for a kit lens that's f/2.8-4.0. If you need to make your wife happy you should consider the A6000 + kit lens and prime$$$$$. Sony kit lens is "ok" but at least a 28mm prime would cover alot and video.

Dont kid yourself ...video is priceless and is better documentation than stills.


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