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May 19, 2016 21:18 |  #1

I'm not sure I like my BG-E13. I have large hands (i.e., I carry a double stack 9mm and still get the large grip insert because it's too small.), but this grip is too big and the aperture wheel is hard to access. The grip doesn't add one, and I have to stretch to reach the original.

The shape is not at all ergonomic, and it adds 3/4lb to my camera's weight.

What do you think of the grips?


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May 19, 2016 21:20 |  #2

Heya,

Pretty much every thread like this basically goes two ways: 1) people who use grips & 2) people who don't use grips.

Both groups will have their reasons that they personally feel is the reason for or against the use of a grip.

It's a personal thing. You either like it, or you don't. It either adds something significant to your situation, or it doesn't.

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May 19, 2016 21:22 |  #3

MalVeauX wrote in post #18012621 (external link)
Heya,

Pretty much every thread like this basically goes two ways: 1) people who use grips & 2) people who don't use grips.

Both groups will have their reasons that they personally feel is the reason for or against the use of a grip.

It's a personal thing. You either like it, or you don't. It either adds something significant to your situation, or it doesn't.

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Perhaps someone will have a technical answer, one that addresses which is healthier; taking weight and positioning into account.


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May 19, 2016 21:24 |  #4

50 different people will give you 50 different answers to this.

I don't particularly have large hands, but the camera with grip is much more comfortable to hold and lets me support it with both hands while simultaneously using one to manipulate the lens zoom. I've tried all my cameras w/o the grip and they just don't have the right spacing of the controls for my taste. But then, I always felt my Minolta XE-7 was too small for comfort as well, and the X- and XX-series Canons dwarf it.

The extra battery power is the icing on the cake.


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May 20, 2016 06:23 |  #5

icor1031 wrote in post #18012617 (external link)
I'm not sure I like my BG-E13. I have large hands (i.e., I carry a double stack 9mm and still get the large grip insert because it's too small.), but this grip is too big and the aperture wheel is hard to access. The grip doesn't add one, and I have to stretch to reach the original.

The shape is not at all ergonomic, and it adds 3/4lb to my camera's weight.

What do you think of the grips?


For me it was very simple.
A Grip adds:
- Vertical controls, that I would very much miss, since I am used to them.
- Additional Power sources, and the ability, to use the camera with batteries.
- A bit of weight.

* As for the Vertical controls:
Once you start using them (and shoot portraits), it is easy to get used to it, and like it.

* The additional power source can be very important in 2 cases:
a.) Where you have a longer shoot, and don't want check your battery life all the time/don't have time to switch them.
b.) In case you travel to somewhere where is not Electricity, you can buy a bunch of AA batteries cheap, and just go shooting a week.
Of course you can also buy LP-E6, or BP-511 accus, or what ever, but they are much-much more expensive.

* The weight: Well you can always take it off, if you don't need it.

My point is, it is far more useful, then it is cumbersome to carry it, and if you want to travel light, just remove it :)


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May 20, 2016 07:59 |  #6

I have gripped every Canon body I've ever owned. I use them intermittently (grip, not camera!). I find them oddly shaped and barely ergonomic. I have sold the grip for my 6D. I tried the 5D3, and don't like it because it is too big. I love my 1DIII, and am currently looking for a 1DIV. Size matters, but it is not the only consideration.


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May 20, 2016 09:33 |  #7

Bassat wrote in post #18012978 (external link)
I have gripped every Canon body I've ever owned. I use them intermittently (grip, not camera!). I find them oddly shaped and barely ergonomic. I have sold the grip for my 6D. I tried the 5D3, and don't like it because it is too big. I love my 1DIII, and am currently looking for a 1DIV. Size matters, but it is not the only consideration.

It's sort of hard to describe, at least for me.... I have always used grips on my camera bodies. Then I got the 1D IV. It feels "natural", for lack of a better term. The other bodies with the grip try to duplicate the feel of a 1D series camera but don't quite get there.

That said, I still prefer the way my right hand fits the camera with a grip installed. I do use a hand strap and it takes a few minutes to get used to sliding my hand out so I can use the vertical controls on the gripped cameras or the 1D IV, but it's a very minor annoyance.

My wife, on the other hand, hates everything about grips. She is now in possession of my 70D and possession is 9/10ths of the law. Somehow, the change from her SL1 to the 70D was smooth, but the thought of using it with a grip scared her.

I picked up a very gently used 5Dc and got a grip for it. It feels nice.... just not 1D IV nice. ;)


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May 20, 2016 09:40 |  #8

I've used grips and also have a 1D series with it built into the body. To tell you the truth I always forget to use the secondary buttons when I use it in a vertical orientation. I do like the grip when rotating, but look spastic holding it and hitting the shutter button it's stock position. From years and years of slr/dslr use without the grip my brain has yet to catch up.


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May 20, 2016 09:40 |  #9

Bassat wrote in post #18012978 (external link)
I have gripped every Canon body I've ever owned. I use them intermittently (grip, not camera!). I find them oddly shaped and barely ergonomic. I have sold the grip for my 6D. I tried the 5D3, and don't like it because it is too big. I love my 1DIII, and am currently looking for a 1DIV. Size matters, but it is not the only consideration.


Phoenixkh wrote in post #18013076 (external link)
It's sort of hard to describe, at least for me.... I have always used grips on my camera bodies. Then I got the 1D IV. It feels "natural", for lack of a better term. The other bodies with the grip try to duplicate the feel of a 1D series camera but don't quite get there.

That said, I still prefer the way my right hand fits the camera with a grip installed. I do use a hand strap and it takes a few minutes to get used to sliding my hand out so I can use the vertical controls on the gripped cameras or the 1D IV, but it's a very minor annoyance.

My wife, on the other hand, hates everything about grips. She is now in possession of my 70D and possession is 9/10ths of the law. Somehow, the change from her SL1 to the 70D was smooth, but the thought of using it with a grip scared her.

I picked up a very gently used 5Dc and got a grip for it. It feels nice.... just not 1D IV nice. ;)

[Hmm...

Interesting, I always thought we use a grip because it and to functionality, etc, and not because it is highly comfortable.
Also keep in mind, the Grip is something that you screw onto a camera, and not something it is built into it.
So for that, it is actually quite well done.


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May 20, 2016 09:42 |  #10

When I started off with the first rebel I ended up getting a battery grip and loved it. It evened out the weight of the lens and was a lot more comfortable to hold onto the body.

With the 7D I didn't really feel a need for it for the most part since I normally use wide angle lenses. With the recent addition of the 70-200 f/4 IS I get the return feeling a battery grip would help balance it out when hand holding due to the extra weight and length of that lens.

The extra battery juice is nice but I typically have 4 batteries with me and never really found it a hassle to swap them out after a couple days.




  
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May 20, 2016 10:17 |  #11

Vladimer wrote in post #18013085 (external link)
When I started off with the first rebel I ended up getting a battery grip and loved it. It evened out the weight of the lens and was a lot more comfortable to hold onto the body.

With the 7D I didn't really feel a need for it for the most part since I normally use wide angle lenses. With the recent addition of the 70-200 f/4 IS I get the return feeling a battery grip would help balance it out when hand holding due to the extra weight and length of that lens.

The extra battery juice is nice but I typically have 4 batteries with me and never really found it a hassle to swap them out after a couple days.

I carry extra batteries in my bag as well. Truth be told, none of my bodes require a battery change in the field if I start out with a fully charged battery (or two in the case of a grip). I see it as a side benefit.... one less thing to think about.


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May 20, 2016 10:49 |  #12

NemethR wrote in post #18012914 (external link)
For me it was very simple.
A Grip adds:
- Vertical controls, that I would very much miss, since I am used to them.
- Additional Power sources, and the ability, to use the camera with batteries.
- A bit of weight.

* As for the Vertical controls:
Once you start using them (and shoot portraits), it is easy to get used to it, and like it.

* The additional power source can be very important in 2 cases:
a.) Where you have a longer shoot, and don't want check your battery life all the time/don't have time to switch them.
b.) In case you travel to somewhere where is not Electricity, you can buy a bunch of AA batteries cheap, and just go shooting a week.
Of course you can also buy LP-E6, or BP-511 accus, or what ever, but they are much-much more expensive.

* The weight: Well you can always take it off, if you don't need it.

My point is, it is far more useful, then it is cumbersome to carry it, and if you want to travel light, just remove it :)

Well said Nemeth.
I also have my bodies gripped for another reason. The body only actually rest in a position in my palm that causes pain and discomfort in my right hand. The Gripped Body eliminates that completely.
Also shooting in portrait mode allows your right hand to stay in the same position as compared to shooting in Portrait mode with right hand above left eye and shoulder lifted. More ergonomic.


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May 20, 2016 11:44 |  #13

I think I'm going to return it get a neewer grip.
They're lighter and $140 cheaper, and I'm so unhappy with the terrible ergonomics (huge grip area, rectangular, hard to reach controls) that it seems like robbery to pay so much for this.

The reason I went with the canon grip is to not worry about it breaking and falling off my cotton carrier, but the grip is basically impossible to use with the attachment for the carrier, I can't get my hand around it.
So, a cheaper, less strong, and lighter version - I think will serve me well. (esp. lighter.)


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May 20, 2016 11:51 |  #14

icor1031 wrote in post #18013221 (external link)
I think I'm going to return it get a neewer grip.
They're lighter and $140 cheaper, and I'm so unhappy with the terrible ergonomics (huge grip area, rectangular, hard to reach controls) that it seems like robbery to pay so much for this.

The reason I went with the canon grip is to not worry about it breaking and falling off my cotton carrier, but the grip is basically impossible to use with the attachment for the carrier, I can't get my hand around it.
So, a cheaper, less strong, and lighter version - I think will serve me well. (esp. lighter.)

One possible consideration: I just got a 5Dc and it came with a third party grip. No problem with the grip working, however, it wasn't shaped right for an RRS L bracket. I got a Canon grip and it fits perfectly. You might not be using an L bracket so this might well be moot.


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May 20, 2016 11:52 |  #15

Phoenixkh wrote in post #18013224 (external link)
One possible consideration: I just got a 5Dc and it came with a third party grip. No problem with the grip working, however, it wasn't shaped right for an RRS L bracket. I got a Canon grip and it fits perfectly. You might not be using an L bracket so this might well be moot.

I use a bracket, but not a grip at the same time.
And I have two bodies. :)

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