NEWS: Canon 120MP DSLR....

http://petapixel.com …ows-off-stuff-canon-expo/

So, what do you think, is it true or just rumours and dreams?

Will this be good enough to replace medium format regardless its smaller sensor, your opinion?!!!

Tareq wrote in post #18014648
http://petapixel.com …ows-off-stuff-canon-expo/

So, what do you think, is it true or just rumours and dreams?

Will this be good enough to replace medium format regardless its smaller sensor, your opinion?!!!

Well I heard about Canon 120MP about 2 years ago or something,and it was a crop sensor,not even a FF.

This is FF or crop sensor?

We do need this

But our computer is too slow

Canon unveiled a 250MP APS-H sensor in September 2015 that could be used in a DSLR. They did not make any predictions as to when and if they would put it in a DSLR though. That would make a mere 120MP sensor seem likely in a DSLR maybe this decade.

...and data storage too small. A 2TB disk is filled in about 9200 photos!

Plus at some point diffraction is going to really limit the extra resolution you can get. I guess if you are shooting at small apertures and also need super-resolution it would be helpful. Perhaps for something where you want to crop a lot - birding? but then you need (or it's useful to have) high fps.

Maybe 100Mp does offer some advantage over 50Mp for landscapes at f8, but it seems to me that we are reaching the point of diminishing returns. If you really want a jump in IQ then you really need to use a larger format.

I have a 60mp medium format and its RAW file didn't reach 100mb, so how come that 120 RAW file reach 200mb size? it should be at most 150mb, if 100-140mb it will be fine, i have so much enough storage and i can easily buy more drives, they are cheap nowadays, i can buy 3-4TB at reasonable price, and i don't think i will shoot that many where i will fill those drive so quick.

Not sure if this camera will be a crop or FF, but i have a strong feeling that it will be FF, it is more logic with FF DSLR than a crop, but who knows, we have to wait.

The question will be, which lens can resolve that much resolution of this camera? i always read about newer cameras with so high mp that have issues with current and older lenses, so if Canon need to re-design lenses again, which lens should be the one to be redesigned or which new lens focal length is proper for this camera?

It seems the media is mixing up all kinds of information in view of Canon revealing a number of different projects!

As for the size of sensor for the 250 Mpixels...

"The new sensor is an APS-H CMOS sensor, which works out to approximately 29.2 x 20.2mm in size. This enables it to cram in 250 million pixels, which Canon says is "the world's highest number of pixels for a CMOS sensor smaller than the size of a 35 mm full-frame sensor." And "Canon says that it is considering applying this new technology to surveillance and crime prevention fields, as well as other industrial tools"

The Y038 project is 120MP APS-H format sensor mounted in a Canon 5Ds camera body. It is also stated "Right now, the sensor only operates at ISO 100. It is producing RAW files around 210MB per image." And that makes sense... 120 Million pixels + 14 bits per pixel/ 8bits per Byte = 210 Million Bytes per RAW image!

Wilt wrote in post #18015377
It seems the media is mixing up all kinds of information in view of Canon revealing a number of different projects!

As for the size of sensor for the 250 Mpixels...

"The new sensor is an APS-H CMOS sensor, which works out to approximately 29.2 x 20.2mm in size. This enables it to cram in 250 million pixels, which Canon says is "the world's highest number of pixels for a CMOS sensor smaller than the size of a 35 mm full-frame sensor." And "Canon says that it is considering applying this new technology to surveillance and crime prevention fields, as well as other industrial tools"

So it will be 250mp DSLR, not 120mp DSLR?

Tareq wrote in post #18015380
So it will be 250mp DSLR, not 120mp DSLR?

See how everyone is mixing up a bunch of things?

1. There is a 250MP camera in the works, and Canon says that it is considering applying this new technology to surveillance and crime prevention fields, as well as other industrial tools
   
2. There is a 120MP camera in the works, which could be a consumer product in the future
   
3. There is an 8k video camera in the works, which marks the company's first foray into 8K broadcasting, and which is expected to begin in Japan ahead of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.
   

Wilt wrote in post #18015391
See how everyone is mixing up a bunch of things?

1. There is a 250MP camera in the works, and Canon says that it is considering applying this new technology to surveillance and crime prevention fields, as well as other industrial tools
   
2. There is a 120MP camera in the works, which could be a consumer product in the future
   
3. There is an 8k video camera in the works, which marks the company's first foray into 8K broadcasting, and which is expected to begin in Japan ahead of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.
   

Folks create confusion, I bet this story morphs into a 250 Mpixel video camera for the military and surveilance complex!

Out of all those in the works, which one do you think more appealing or you prefer? i have a feeling that 250mp will not be available at all any soon, not this year, not even next year, it is too early for it, if i was in place of Canon then i will start with 120mp then later i put 250mp.

8k video is also not that much demanding, how many people are using 4k TV and monitors already? even me don't have 2k or 4k, and even with 4k TV i don't need 8k camera yet, but Canon sure put those for future proof when other competitors are going strong in productions too.

Tareq wrote in post #18015401
Out of all those in the works, which one do you think more appealing or you prefer? i have a feeling that 250mp will not be available at all any soon, not this year, not even next year, it is too early for it, if i was in place of Canon then i will start with 120mp then later i put 250mp.

8k video is also not that much demanding, how many people are using 4k TV and monitors already? even me don't have 2k or 4k, and even with 4k TV i don't need 8k camera yet, but Canon sure put those for future proof when other competitors are going strong in productions too.

You are asking the wrong person.

• I still use a 40D because it has all the resolution I need (I don't print monster prints), and the 50D and 60D added pixels and were noisier than the 40D. Yes, newer bodies may be better, but I still do not have need for resolution consuming harddrive storage five times faster.
  
• I do not shoot video, so I could care less about having a video camera as I am not a videographer, and 4K video is fine for really large screens (cinema) but I don't think necessary for home...you can't get much to watch in 4K yet!
  

Wilt wrote in post #18015628
You are asking the wrong person.

• I still use a 40D because it has all the resolution I need (I don't print monster prints), and the 50D and 60D added pixels and were noisier than the 40D. Yes, newer bodies may be better, but I still do not have need for resolution consuming harddrive storage five times faster.
  
• I do not shoot video, so I could care less about having a video camera as I am not a videographer, and 4K video is fine for really large screens (cinema) but I don't think necessary for home...you can't get much to watch in 4K yet!
  

I am retired now, and when a job is not bringing in so much disposable income, things which are frills go as unfulfilled wants. If it really makes a difference to my shooting, THEN it is something worth acquiring. JMHO. And being forced into transmissive displays for features that I do not have a need for, is not 'progress' to me, along with the more rapid consumption of harddrive.

I think all are mostly 'improvements' meant to make Canon not seem so technically 'behind', compared to the Sony low noise and higher dynamic range sensor.

Ah ok, but it is just your opinion or if you are given a choice, it is not a must to choose, i may not get anything of them and i don't have the latest too, not even 40/50mp DSLRS, only Sony A7R and H4D has over 20mp i have, but i may give opinions sometimes.

I am too not shooting video at all, didn't shoot with Full HD as well yet, so i am still not into 4K or even 8K in the future, i am happy with HD and Full HD so far of what i watch on TV, so not in rush for 4K and not thinking to buy DSLR because of its 4K or 8K anyway.

I am not sure if Sony is now better in low noise than Canon, but i agree about higher dynamic range, and i go with Sony only for this feature, not a low ISO/noise person here, but good to see those manufacturers competing each other for the best, but hope they can slow down a bit as i feel my today camera i am happy with suddenly after 1 or 2 years it is not so appealing anymore, i loved my Sony A7r, but now i feel i want to sell it after only 2 years of use and get A7rII or newer, i know you will see no need or not necessary, but if you follow me since years you will know it became a game of "I WANT" more than a game of "I NEED", show off is part of it too, unfortunately, and those who gave up just keep saying good luck to themselves and others in same boat