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May 23, 2016 16:27 |  #1

Hi everyone. I´m seriously thinking about purchasing a Godox/Cheetahlight AD360 and I´d like to know how it behaves at about 3meters (10 feet) from model with a softbox attached, mainly for outdoor portraiture. Please post samples




  
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May 24, 2016 17:27 |  #3

It works fine. If you're using speedlights the FIRST thing you'll notice is how close in size it is to a large speedlight which is nice. Second thing, the 360 will fill up your softbox, much more even spread of light. Examples? I'd just look at pretty much any 300w strobe in a softbox. I don't see much difference between my Promaster 300w and the 360....except in footprint.

3rd, there are some other accessories you may want to consider if getting a 360: 2-1 y adapter to speed up recycle time, clip for attaching battery to light stand, longer power cable. None of which are mandatory, but all of which are helpful.

I use my CL360 with the S mount holder. I've used it with a 32" collapsible softbox (Lastolite style) and very happy. You'll need a TTL capable trigger if you want HSS, which the 360 is capable of.


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May 24, 2016 20:04 |  #4

I used this diffuser vs a softbox during my last portrait shoot. A softbox is too large and would have blown over with the winds.

http://www.amazon.com …1&keywords=ad36​0+diffuser (external link)

The 2nd shot isn't great, but it was in direct sunlight, and I was able to use the AD360 at 1/4 power HSS to light up her dark side. I couldn't get the light closer as she was on a bridge, and I was on the rocks a bit below her. I could have upped the power, or brought my 2nd AD360.

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May 27, 2016 14:02 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #5

Hi. Thanks for the advice. Do you remember how far from the model was the strobe for the first image.? I need to know if I could place it at about 10 ft from the model and get good results at f11 1/250th @ISO 100 with a softbox. Have you tried it this way? Thanks in advance




  
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May 27, 2016 18:37 |  #6

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Hi. Thanks for the advice. Do you remember how far from the model was the strobe for the first image.? I need to know if I could place it at about 10 ft from the model and get good results at f11 1/250th @ISO 100 with a softbox. Have you tried it this way? Thanks in advance

Depending on the softbox, that may be a bit of a stretch for a 300Ws light. Why 10 feet? Why a softbox?

The guide number is 80 (m at ISO100) so F11 means 24 feet. That gives you about 1EV for the softbox to absorb.

Naturally, if you're keeping the shutter speed at or below X sync speed its irrelevant.


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May 27, 2016 19:07 |  #7

using stock reflector at 8 feet

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May 27, 2016 20:05 |  #8

I couldn't use a softbox outside due to them acting like a sail. This is why I used the diffuser. I put the flash probably close to around 7-9' to the young lady.


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May 27, 2016 20:31 |  #9

HERE (external link) is a page on my site describing a shoot last Sunday with an AD600. There is one pull back image showing the light about 20 feet from the subject and about 13 or so feet above the ground. I was shooting in TTL, it had a standard reflector. It also was firing at substantially less than full power.

The only risk, in your scenario, with the 360 is the softbox. There is no way to know how much its going to depreciate the light on the subject. At 10 feet, it would take a quite large softbox to offer significantly softer light than a standard reflector.

Personally, I think the harder edges from the standard or similar reflector are consistent with what people expect when they see a picture with sunlight in it.


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May 27, 2016 23:35 |  #10

I had be at full power with a 360x in a RB190 at about 4 feet from the model to light in full sun.

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May 28, 2016 07:21 |  #11

Thank you verymuch for the quick posts. I think I´ll go for one, but the AD 600 is sooooo tempting.......




  
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May 28, 2016 07:49 |  #12

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I had be at full power with a 360x in a RB190 at about 4 feet from the model to light in full sun.

Nice one Scott.
I had no idea a 190 could cover a full length at 4 feet.
I presume you had it feathered toward her tummy to get the full length coverage.


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Thank you verymuch for the quick posts. I think I´ll go for one, but the AD 600 is sooooo tempting.......

The 600 using the same set only gave me a about a foot more distance


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Nice one Scott.
I had no idea a 190 could cover a full length at 4 feet.
I presume you had it feathered toward her tummy to get the full length coverage.

it was tilted about a 45 degree angle to give me about 4 foot clearance to shoot under.


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May 28, 2016 20:35 |  #15

abbadon31 wrote in post #18021819 (external link)
The 600 using the same set only gave me a about a foot more distance

Using my simple f number to feet guide that's about right. F4 is one stop more than F5.6. So, 5.6 feet requires twice the light output that 4 feet does. For the scientists reading this I know that the inverse square law applies to point source lights but its close enough for a quick guesstimate. And, its surprising how close it works out when measured with a light meter.


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