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May 27, 2016 15:15 |  #1

I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this.

I'm in the planning stages for a panorama of downtown Calgary. I snapped a bunch of handheld photos with my APS-C Fuji camera (35mm equivalent lens) in portrait orientation to piece together a quick pano to plan the one I need to drag heavy gear out for.

So, here is the quick "planning pano" that I created (don't worry about the colour/processing weirdness in this one):

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I like what I've got covered of the Calgary city centre. I don't really care about how much sky I capture. What I don't like are the power lines and other junk in the foreground.

I want a completely true, honest, and accurate panorama of the Calgary core as it is today (or whenever it stops raining). The largest employing industry has been decimated, unemployment is the highest it has been since the early 1980s (I was laid off in January), food bank lineups stretch for blocks, office vacancies are over 20% . . . the highest they been in over 30 years, and pre-bust construction projects are still ongoing (you can see the cranes in the photo) which will have no tenants when they're completed.

I don't want to remove a single thing in post. I want a historically accurate panorama. This is an important time in what will become Calgary's history (and it really sucks living through it).

When I crop the stuff out that I don't like, I get this (which I don't like):
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So. I want accurate. I don't want the junk in the foreground. I don't want to Photoshop anything out. It feels like I can't get what I want out of this one.

I'm not sure what to sacrifice. Do I put up with the junk in the foreground, go with the second framing (which is the weaker composition), or is there another option that I'm not seeing?

I will probably shoot this one with my 6D and 70-200 lens. I've done massive amounts on cropping from what I originally shot for planning purposes.

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May 27, 2016 15:31 |  #2

If you're doing a pano and stitching shots anyway, can you just shoot the composite shots with a longer lens and simply exclude the portion of the foreground that has the offending items in it?

Also, can you mock up anything approximating what you *would* like to see?


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May 27, 2016 15:58 |  #3

Just a thought … Would it be possible to set up a 8' or 10' ladder and shoot over the power lines and at a slight downward angle?




  
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May 27, 2016 15:59 |  #4

Snydremark wrote in post #18021034 (external link)
If you're doing a pano and stitching shots anyway, can you just shoot the composite shots with a longer lens and simply exclude the portion of the foreground that has the offending items in it?

Also, can you mock up anything approximating what you *would* like to see?

Here is all of what I originally shot. It is pretty much a 180° view. I've just been playing with cropping this to get an idea of what I might like:

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I might like this crop. It doesn't have much breathing room, and the aspect ratio is nuts. How interesting the sky over Calgary is going to be is impossible to predict, so it can't be relied on to add interest.
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Maybe the uncomfortably tight and anxious feeling I get from that last crop is the most appropriate based on the state of things right now. I could probably get some really good detail with my 70-200 with that framing.

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May 27, 2016 16:02 |  #5

Patrick_E wrote in post #18021057 (external link)
Just a thought … Would it be possible to set up a 8' or 10' ladder and shoot over the power lines and at a slight downward angle?

I don't know. My vantage point was a few steps down a hill on public green space. At the top of the hill is a large private parking lot with an attendant. I couldn't set a ladder up on the hill. I don't know if the attendant would just give me the stink-eye or would have security haul me away.


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May 27, 2016 17:00 |  #6

Meh, skyline panos tend to have a pretty abstract aspect ratio; it's just the nature of the beast. I would make use of your 70-200, though, and probably just keep that lower portion where the power lines are out of the original frames. If you're looking for historic documentation, you might want to look at keeping a bit of the un-built up horizon out on the right in the final result, too. That ought to get you to a point where you still have some of the greenery in the foreground while showcasing the skyline.


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May 27, 2016 17:33 |  #7

Snydremark wrote in post #18021116 (external link)
If you're looking for historic documentation, you might want to look at keeping a bit of the un-built up horizon out on the right in the final result, too.

Excellent idea. Calgary and New York City have very close to the same geographic size, but Calgary has 1/10th the population of New York. There has been a real push to curtail urban sprawl and increase urban density over the last few years with Mayor Nenshi. There will probably be huge changes to the skyline over the next few decades.


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May 27, 2016 17:50 |  #8

neacail wrote in post #18021139 (external link)
... There will probably be huge changes to the skyline over the next few decades.

That was my thought...it seems likely. Good luck!


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