I need a boom stand quick... help me please

need to pick up a boom stand and/or just a boom arm. All I have now are a bunch of aluminum stands, biggest being a 13' heavy duty type rated for 15lbs so not sure if that'll cut it or not.

What I'm looking on doing is a 48" RB-120 (4.5lbs) and a mount/CL-360 (3lbs) so about 7.5lbs total weight. The issue was I was looking at the D600 boom arm and it's 8lbs and then you gotta factor in counter weight I'm exceeding the capability of the stand at that point.

Sooo... Is there any option for me getting a boom stand setup good for the above light/modifier for indoor/outdoor use that I only need to go up to around 8' in height or so maybe a tad more that I can get for less than $200?

Was looking to purchase pretty quick (by tuesday).... I'm no lighting pro so not sure all the options available. Thanks for the help.

Talley wrote in post #18023636
need to pick up a boom stand and/or just a boom arm. All I have now are a bunch of aluminum stands, biggest being a 13' heavy duty type rated for 15lbs so not sure if that'll cut it or not.

What I'm looking on doing is a 48" RB-120 (4.5lbs) and a mount/CL-360 (3lbs) so about 7.5lbs total weight. The issue was I was looking at the D600 boom arm and it's 8lbs and then you gotta factor in counter weight I'm exceeding the capability of the stand at that point.

Sooo... Is there any option for me getting a boom stand setup good for the above light/modifier for indoor/outdoor use that I only need to go up to around 8' in height or so maybe a tad more that I can get for less than $200?

Was looking to purchase pretty quick (by tuesday).... I'm no lighting pro so not sure all the options available. Thanks for the help.

My 2p: Weight at the Boom end - and - offset from the stand, separately, cost effort and $. And then there's the legal issue of whether or not you can be creative with the manufacturer's capacity ratings - I wouldn't be.

In your shoes, I wouldn't go lighter than Impact's Boom arm - supports 8 lb load:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …9UKGw&is=REG&Q=​&A=details
you might elect to grind a flat into the neck of the terminal baby pin, to resist twist from that 4.5 lb modifier ..
(I don't own this - I have both a lighter (Interfit) & heavier (Kupo) boom .. )
then ..

the stand needs, IMO, the correct total wt capacity (you might limit the counterweight to 7.5 lb - but then with only 50:50 offset) - and - a truly bombproof top fitting - and - a minimum footprint diameter of 43 in.
Wind apart, booms also get interesting if the stand is not vertical - do you need a leveling leg?
Good luck.

Quite a few threads with good info located on the board. The Avenger 4039 is one of the
standouts in the crowd.
https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=1119​840&page=1

The price for the Avenger 4039 might be north of your budget. I believe that Kupo, and Cheetahstand also have respectable offerings.

Regards,

110yd

I don't want you to push the limit, but consider that maximum weight capacities for stands assume full extension. If you're only going up to 8' or even shorter it can probably bear the load. If you have stands shorter than the 13', then check load capacities. They may be greater. I use the Avenger D600CB with an Impact 9' heavy duty stand at home. Neither the stand nor the boom are ever at full extension, since my ceiling is just 9.5' tall. I fly a PCB white lighting with modifiers as large as a 4' softbox or a 5' parabolic using 10 lbs. of counterweight on the other end, not to mention additional weight on the center column.

PineBomb wrote in post #18023947
I don't want you to push the limit, but consider that maximum weight capacities for stands assume full extension. If you're only going up to 8' or even shorter it can probably bear the load. If you have stands shorter than the 13', then check load capacities. They may be greater. I use the Avenger D600CB with an Impact 9' heavy duty stand at home. Neither the stand nor the boom are ever at full extension, since my ceiling is just 9.5' tall. I fly a PCB white lighting with modifiers as large as a 4' softbox or a 5' parabolic using 10 lbs. of counterweight on the other end, not to mention additional weight on the center column.

Great input. Thanks!

PineBomb wrote in post #18023947
I don't want you to push the limit, but consider that maximum weight capacities for stands assume full extension. If you're only going up to 8' or even shorter it can probably bear the load. If you have stands shorter than the 13', then check load capacities. They may be greater. I use the Avenger D600CB with an Impact 9' heavy duty stand at home. Neither the stand nor the boom are ever at full extension, since my ceiling is just 9.5' tall. I fly a PCB white lighting with modifiers as large as a 4' softbox or a 5' parabolic using 10 lbs. of counterweight on the other end, not to mention additional weight on the center column.

+1 to this. Of the two stands I use with booms, one is built like a tank but the other is a couple of pounds short on its published capacity. But it's a 13ft stand, so I just elect not to use the uppermost riser when it's carrying my Kupo boom - it's never looked like bending or failing in any way. But it does have a really strong top fitting - a full Baby pin. Top Studs vary considerably, in particular in how exactly they are mated to the top riser - for boom use you need something strong.

PineBomb wrote in post #18023947
I don't want you to push the limit, but consider that maximum weight capacities for stands assume full extension. If you're only going up to 8' or even shorter it can probably bear the load. If you have stands shorter than the 13', then check load capacities. They may be greater. I use the Avenger D600CB with an Impact 9' heavy duty stand at home. Neither the stand nor the boom are ever at full extension, since my ceiling is just 9.5' tall. I fly a PCB white lighting with modifiers as large as a 4' softbox or a 5' parabolic using 10 lbs. of counterweight on the other end, not to mention additional weight on the center column.

OceanRipple* wrote in post #18025026
+1 to this. Of the two stands I use with booms, one is built like a tank but the other is a couple of pounds short on its published capacity. But it's a 13ft stand, so I just elect not to use the uppermost riser when it's carrying my Kupo boom - it's never looked like bending or failing in any way. But it does have a really strong top fitting - a full Baby pin. Top Studs vary considerably, in particular in how exactly they are mated to the top riser - for boom use you need something strong.

I also have two boom-capable stands, and sometimes choose to overload the smaller because it's easier to set up. The overload is 10 lbs (65-55 lbs) but junior fittings are more secure by nature, and the boom itself (Avenger D650) is within spec. I keep the stand at minimum height (3') and never fly over a live subject.

Talley wrote in post #18023636
The issue was I was looking at the D600 boom arm and it's 8lbs and then you gotta factor in counter weight I'm exceeding the capability of the stand at that point.

Official spec for the D600 is 15.6 pounds at full extension.

I ended up picking up the cheetaboom. Haven't had a chance to use it yet but will try to get to that this weekend.

Talley wrote in post #18046369
I ended up picking up the cheetaboom. Haven't had a chance to use it yet but will try to get to that this weekend.

The Cheetah boom should be OK for a CL 360. With the RiceBowl being quite a front-heavy design, I'd be interested to hear if you have any bother from twisting, given the torque applied by the light/mod combo in some orientations.

OceanRipple* wrote in post #18046973
The Cheetah boom should be OK for a CL 360. With the RiceBowl being quite a front-heavy design, I'd be interested to hear if you have any bother from twisting, given the torque applied by the light/mod combo in some orientations.

I tested the boom last night after I posted. I need a C stand.

I'll keep this boom for a reflector holder but it felt like it was at it's limits boomed to 8' at a 60 degree angle and counterweight... the boom part was bending so I was kinda like eh... need stronger.

Include the Kupo Steel Baby boom in your searches - it has anti-twist Hex flats on the neck of its Baby Pin termination.

I know people use C stands for this but a bigger footprint option - leveling leg too - is better (wheeled, only if indoors), IMO. Good luck.

Talley's boom search is converging slowly onto the heavy iron. Here's what 7.5 lbs of payload @ 9' altitude and 7' extension looks like:

Dear TALLEY,

One option...
Manfrotto 420B Combi Boom Stand (Black) [Mfr# 420B]:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …20B_Combi_Boom_​Stand.html
- it's very quick & easy.
[I confidently hold 9lbs of gear on mine; my Profoto D1Air500's(5.4lbs) & Profoto B1's(6.6 lbs) with modifiers including: Profoto Beauty Dish(2.75lbs), 3ft Octa, 4ftx3ft Softbox, etc. (I have two in my studio: one for main-light, one for hair-light). I always do my due diligence & cautious about public liability issue, even though I carry business insurance].
https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=5gvOO9hUvNI (7:30 minute video)

However, if you are going 8ft plus boom extension, rather than 8ft LOA, likely be too much. Everyone's comfort level is subjective. Good luck on your solution.

Just one view...

Mary

P.S.
I'm only 5ft 2in petite female and have found that "less is often more" - it keeps photography fun & agile, rather than being a gear-hauler.
Many years ago, got a Manfrotto Heavy Duty Stand/Boom[Mfr# 085B], but found it too big & cumbersome for 80% of my needs.
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_Heavy_Duty_Boo​m_and.html