Replying to a post

I'll use Reply instead of Quote when, for instance, I'm replying to a long post, quoting the whole thing would be wasteful and boring, and I want to spare myself the work of deleting sections of the quoted post.

You know what bugs me? Someone starts a thread with a post of many paragraphs. Then a second person comes along and quotes the whole thing and adds a few words of response. What this second person was replying to was perfectly obvious, since there's only one post it can possibly be. I don't need to see the first post again. If I want to review it, it's right up there.

OhLook wrote in post #18026536
I'll use Reply instead of Quote when, for instance, I'm replying to a long post, quoting the whole thing would be wasteful and boring, and I want to spare myself the work of deleting sections of the quoted post.

You know what bugs me? Someone starts a thread with a post of many paragraphs. Then a second person comes along and quotes the whole thing and adds a few words of response. What this second person was replying to was perfectly obvious, since there's only one post it can possibly be. I don't need to see the first post again. If I want to review it, it's right up there.

summarized quotes should be default IMO.

for instance, the quote works by showing first 4 lines followed by "...", which is clickable or maybe hover over and it shows the rest of the post.

this keeps the forum clean. Consider it a WIP, pekka took the effort to minimize images when quoted, extend the same concept to bodies of text.

Charlie wrote in post #18026551
summarized quotes should be default IMO.

for instance, the quote works by showing first 4 lines followed by "...", which is clickable or maybe hover over and it shows the rest of the post.

Sometimes the part I want to quote, to provide a context for what I'm saying, is later than the first four lines. Then what?

The ideal, really, is for people to quote selectively, but it's more work, and many don't do it.

OhLook wrote in post #18026580
Sometimes the part I want to quote, to provide a context for what I'm saying, is later than the first four lines. Then what?

The ideal, really, is for people to quote selectively, but it's more work, and many don't do it.

Then you'll have to erase. It's not the perfect solution, don't think any exist, but falls in line with the overall goal of the forum.

Chances are, your reply to the long quote will be understood, even if relevant quote is buried. The other person can figure out the context without clogging of the thread due to long post.

Charlie wrote in post #18026594
Then you'll have to erase.

Another solution is needed if the Quote button puts only the first four lines into my reply.

Charlie wrote in post #18026278
IMO, the reply should be same as "Post to thread" in fact "Post to thread" should be reply. The reply doesnt work when viewing via mobile and the fragmentation through different browsers is annoying to deal with. I'm a proponent of simpler design, quote should quote, reply should be blank. Simple.

Reply as it is, even if it works, is borderline useless. It provides nothing to the user or other users browsing.

Useless to one may be helpful to others.

I use the reply feature almost as much as I use the quote feature these days. Depends on the situation.
I do not think reply and posting to the thread are the same.

Different stroke I guess.

OhLook wrote in post #18026836
Another solution is needed if the Quote button puts only the first four lines into my reply.

no no, I didnt mean that. The quote should put the entire quote but instead only display the first 4 lines followed by "..." in the actual reply

like

[QUOTE]Wall of text
Wall of text
Wall of text
Wall of text
Wall of text
Wall of text
Wall of text
Wall of text
Wall of text
Wall of text[/QUOTE]

Charlie wrote
Wall of text
Wall of text
Wall of text
Wall of text
...

Charlie wrote in post #18026278
IMO, the reply should be same as "Post to thread" in fact "Post to thread" should be reply. The reply doesnt work when viewing via mobile and the fragmentation through different browsers is annoying to deal with. I'm a proponent of simpler design, quote should quote, reply should be blank. Simple.

Reply as it is, even if it works, is borderline useless. It provides nothing to the user or other users browsing.

Funny, because I find the Reply option quite helpful as it usually is a direct reply to a specific comment so it kinda links the two comments together, whereas Post to Thread is, or is meant to be anyway, a more general contribution to a thread, and not a response to a specific previous comment. For me each tool serves a specific purpose and I use them all, depending on the situation.

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #18026858
Funny, because I find the Reply option quite helpful as it usually is a direct reply to a specific comment so it kinda links the two comments together, whereas Post to Thread is, or is meant to be anyway, a more general contribution to a thread, and not a response to a specific previous comment. For me each tool serves a specific purpose and I use them all, depending on the situation.

I certainly understand the reasoning, just saying "quote" serves the same functionality and then some. It's clear, concise, and not confusing.

"Reply" and "Quote" can be one and the same, just decide on the naming convention and stick to it. "Post to thread" can replace one of them as a shortcut since you may be mid page and not want to scroll to the top or bottom to post.

I find it quite interesting that my "simple question" has brought on a very decent amount of discussion on the subject......

Charlie wrote in post #18026863
"Reply" and "Quote" can be one and the same, just decide on the naming convention and stick to it. "Post to thread" can replace one of them as a shortcut since you may be mid page and not want to scroll to the top or bottom to post.

I use Reply and Quote differently. Quote is useful when I want to select a small part of a post and respond to just that part, either a bit of text or one image out of several in the same post. Quote also comes in handy when several posts have appeared after the one I'm replying to. Quoting a little of the post will remind readers of it, so they won't have to go back to the post to see what it was. But sometimes, as when you're #2 in a thread, Reply does just as well.

People who use the feature in FYEO that shows latest replies to their posts might want repliers to use Reply or Quote, when talking to them specifically, instead of Post to Thread.

To use Post to Thread, you do have to be at the top or bottom.

Reply doesn't work when using my iPhone and also when viewing on my iPhone I don't see other replies, I just see the posts and have no indication as to who they are replying to.

For example here is a screenshot of the first page. It doesn't show that inspeqtor actually replied to ohlook

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I want add some more functionality.

When the quote is a reply to one or two post above the four line quote is shown. If the quote is less then then lines the whole quote is shown and when longer you get the same "...." as by the four line quote.

I am mostly on my tablet and see a lot of full page quotes while the replied post is the previous one. So I see twice the same text when I scroll back.

I visited this part of the forum because I noticed the names and numbers when replying to a posting...I now get it and it works in a way the same as above mentioned by me.

The name instead of the number is a nice function but it can be confusing because the same information is displayed differently in the same location.

OhLook wrote in post #18026536
You know what bugs me? Someone starts a thread with a post of many paragraphs. Then a second person comes along and quotes the whole thing and adds a few words of response. What this second person was replying to was perfectly obvious, since there's only one post it can possibly be. I don't need to see the first post again. If I want to review it, it's right up there.

This often annoys me, too.

BUT, there is a time when quoting the entire post is useful. I do this when I think that there is a danger that the person who wrote the post I am quoting will come back and edit - or even remove - their post.

There are many threads in which the OP said some really strange, inaccurate, or offensive things, and then a lot of people reply to the post, showing the OP just how wrong they are - only to have the OP come back and remove practically everything they said. Then all of the follow-up replies don't make any sense, because we can no longer see what they were replying to. So for that reason I think it is useful at times to quote what people say, word-for-word, so that there is a record of just what they said.

It helps to keep people accountable for what they write here if they know that they can't just remove the offensive or stupid stuff.

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