Which Yongnuo?

I went through a lot of threads here, and still I do not have an answer.

I want a fairly simple ETTL flash for an on-camera (6D) use. I also want to be able in the future to control one or two more off-camera units. The Yongnuo seems to be really inexpensive, but I cannot figure out which I need. The price difference is not much, so the price is of no consideration. There is 600EX, 685, 568. I tried to do a comparison on B&H website, but it it does not explain well what is what.

I do not want to buy a Canon, as I am not sure if I will like flash photography at all. I do have a couple of Nissins, but I just do not like them - I cannot get consistent output from them, so they are just sitting on a shelf. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I doubt that.

Any suggestions?

Lots of threads with info, but triggers and flash are some what technical, so there is plenty of
room for confusion. The Yn-685 has a built in RF trigger. The Yn-568 does not have built in RF triggering. I believe both devices have optical triggering, but it is not as robust.

There is an advantage to having a flash with a built in trigger system. (Less stuff to carry in terms
of batteries and backup) The Yn-685 coupled with a Yn-622Tx combination would give you the ability to have one flash off camera. If you wanted to add additional Yn-685 devices, they would
work with the Yn-622Tx. I believe the Yn-622Tx will support 3 groups. I own multiple Yn-622 triggers and Yn-568 flash devices. My intent is to upgrade to something with an integrated
trigger.

Hope this helps,

110yd

Thanks Lloyd, it does help a little. B&H has a bundle of the 685 with the 622C-TX "controller". If the 685 already has built-in RF trigger, why do I need the transceiver? And what would I need for slave flashes?

What is the main difference between the 600 and the 685?

The Yn-685 has a built in 2.4 GHz radio. Your camera does have a radio for Wifi, but not a 2.4GHz radio to talk to the Yn-685. Depending on how you want to communicate, and how many flashes you want to talk with there are MULTIPLE Yn options.

Option A) Place a Yn-685 flash on your hot shoe and have it be a master.
It could speak wirelessly to multiple (3) groups of other Yn-685 devices or Canon compatible
devices sitting on Yn-622 triggers.

Option B) Would be to use a Yn-622tx on your camera hot shoe. The Yn-622tx could communicate wirelessly to multiple Yn-685 devices or Canon compatible devices sitting on Yn-622 triggers.

In regards to a Canon 600EX-RT, it offers a built in radio and will support 5 groups.

Hope this helps clear up the muck,

Regards,

110yd

Got it. Thanks a lot!

110yd wrote in post #18070902
Option B) Would be to use a Yn-685tx on your camera hot shoe.

You mean 622 TX ?

You are correct. It should read Yn-622tx..... I will edit the post to correct. Good eye!!

Regards,

110yd

Lbsimon wrote in post #18070801
I went through a lot of threads here, and still I do not have an answer.

I want a fairly simple ETTL flash for an on-camera (6D) use. I also want to be able in the future to control one or two more off-camera units. The Yongnuo seems to be really inexpensive, but I cannot figure out which I need. The price difference is not much, so the price is of no consideration. There is 600EX, 685, 568. I tried to do a comparison on B&H website, but it it does not explain well what is what.

I do not want to buy a Canon, as I am not sure if I will like flash photography at all. I do have a couple of Nissins, but I just do not like them - I cannot get consistent output from them, so they are just sitting on a shelf. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I doubt that.

Any suggestions?

Heya,

The YN 685 is the way to go. Grab the TX-622 later if you want to control things off-camera. Excellent system.

Very best,

Thanks guys. For $109 one can't go wrong!

The YN600 communicates using Canon's RF protocol, and can link wirelessly with Canon RT equipment as well as other Yongnuo devices that speak Canon (the YNE3-RX receivers and YN-E3-RT controller)

The 685 uses Yongnuo's own wireless protocol, and will link up only with other Yongnuo protocol devices like the 622 and 603 series transmitters and receivers, and the YN560-TX controller which is this system's functional equivalent of the ST-E3-RT.

The two wireless systems cannot communicate with each other.

The 600 would make sense if you have only Canon cameras and had any other Canon RT components already, or planned to add them. The 685 makes more sense if you have multiple brands of cameras for which you can get transmitters, to use the 685 off-camera with (it will still only work on-shoe with one brand). Otherwise, it doesn't particularly matter that much. I think the YN native system supports a few more control features. Both systems allow integrating strobes with speedlites, with support for high-speed sync timings.

Lbsimon wrote in post #18070801
I went through a lot of threads here, and still I do not have an answer.

I want a fairly simple ETTL flash for an on-camera (6D) use. I also want to be able in the future to control one or two more off-camera units. The Yongnuo seems to be really inexpensive, but I cannot figure out which I need. The price difference is not much, so the price is of no consideration. There is 600EX, 685, 568. I tried to do a comparison on B&H website, but it it does not explain well what is what.

I do not want to buy a Canon, as I am not sure if I will like flash photography at all. I do have a couple of Nissins, but I just do not like them - I cannot get consistent output from them, so they are just sitting on a shelf. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I doubt that.

Any suggestions?

I would go with the Godox/Flashpoint over the YN. Ettl, HSS, commander and talks to all the other 2.4 ghz flashes both manual/hss and ttl

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I used to have YN stuff but the fact that all the units wouldn't talk to each other drove me nuts.

I don't quite get the statement that Godox/Flashpoint "Talks to all the other 2.4GHz flashes both manual/hss and ttl". I think you mean the TT685 with the correct Godox/Flashpoint Receiver combination you can talk to a Canon compatible flash. If that is what you mean, then I understand what you are saying.

The Godox/Flashpoint 2.4 GHz radio system is somewhat new and is worth a look. Understand that in either case the service or warranty is going to be in the hands of whomever you purchased the devices from....

Regards,

110yd

110yd wrote in post #18071130
I don't quite get the statement that Godox/Flashpoint "Talks to all the other 2.4GHz flashes both manual/hss and ttl". I think you mean the TT685 with the correct Godox/Flashpoint Receiver combination you can talk to a Canon compatible flash. If that is what you mean, then I understand what you are saying.

The Godox/Flashpoint 2.4 GHz radio system is somewhat new and is worth a look. Understand that in either case the service or warranty is going to be in the hands of whomever you purchased the devices from....

Regards,

110yd

The way I understood Scoobert's comment, "I would go with the Godox/Flashpoint over the YN. Ettl, HSS, commander and talks to all the other 2.4 ghz flashes both manual/hss and ttl", is that it makes no difference which Godox 2.4G flash product you buy they will all be directly compatible with all other Godox 2.4G flash products. This is a true statement and there is no "muck" to clear up. Yongnuo flash products are very confusing as to what works with what as evidenced by the OP's opening comment "I went through a lot of threads here, and still I do not have an answer".

Godox has maintained complete compatibility throughout their flash product line up. Their new 2.4G X system is fully integrated, with all X system flashes having either built in 2.4G transceivers or receivers, and the older Manual only Godox flash products, designed to work with the 433MHz FTR16 receivers, can be fully integrated into the 2.4G X system by using the new 2.4G XTR16 receivers. Coincidentally the new X system 2.4G flash products are fully backward compatible with the Godox 433MHz system as well by use of an FTR16 receiver in their built-in control port.

So if you buy a Godox Speedlite today and feel that you need more flash output and you buy one of their more powerful studio strobes down the road, no worries, they're fully compatible with either of Godox's Wireless systems. The only thing to decide is do you want TTL or Manual.

agv8or wrote in post #18071165
The way I understood Scoobert's comment, "I would go with the Godox/Flashpoint over the YN. Ettl, HSS, commander and talks to all the other 2.4 ghz flashes both manual/hss and ttl", is that it makes no difference which Godox 2.4G flash product you buy they will all be directly compatible with all other Godox 2.4G flash products. This is a true statement and there is no "muck" to clear up. Yongnuo flash products are very confusing as to what works with what as evidenced by the OP's opening comment "I went through a lot of threads here, and still I do not have an answer".

Godox has maintained complete compatibility throughout their flash product line up. Their new 2.4G X system is fully integrated, with all X system flashes having either built in 2.4G transceivers or receivers, and the older Manual only Godox flash products, designed to work with the 433MHz FTR16 receivers, can be fully integrated into the 2.4G X system by using the new 2.4G XTR16 receivers. Coincidentally the new X system 2.4G flash products are fully backward compatible with the Godox 433MHz system as well by use of an FTR16 receiver in their built-in control port.

So if you buy a Godox Speedlite today and feel that you need more flash output and you buy one of their more powerful studio strobes down the road, no worries, they're fully compatible with either of Godox's Wireless systems. The only thing to decide is do you want TTL or Manual.

Exactly, Thank You Rand