Should I upgrade LR?

sploo wrote in post #18089483
Note that dehaze is only available on the CC version - though there is a plug-in for the standalone version that allows you to access that tool.

Can you elaborate on that? I mean, you get a plug in and you have the same dehaze tool that's only available in the subscription version?

patrick j wrote in post #18089640
Can you elaborate on that? I mean, you get a plug in and you have the same dehaze tool that's only available in the subscription version?

Prolost.com "Dehaze"

patrick j wrote in post #18089640
Can you elaborate on that? I mean, you get a plug in and you have the same dehaze tool that's only available in the subscription version?

KeithS wrote in post #18089856
Prolost.com "Dehaze"

Yep - it's likely the actual software build is the same (near as makes no difference) between the CC and standalone versions, and what controls appear are driven by the license. The plug-in is the result of someone working out how to call the relevant API for the dehaze code - until that is Adobe change it in a future build in order to disable the hack.

sploo wrote in post #18089919
Yep - it's likely the actual software build is the same (near as makes no difference) between the CC and standalone versions, and what controls appear are driven by the license. The plug-in is the result of someone working out how to call the relevant API for the dehaze code - until that is Adobe change it in a future build in order to disable the hack.

Well huh, maybe I will spring for the newer version. I worry a little bit that they are going to yank LR off the market the way they did with Photoshop so it's only available by subscription.

patrick j wrote in post #18089928
Well huh, maybe I will spring for the newer version. I worry a little bit that they are going to yank LR off the market the way they did with Photoshop so it's only available by subscription.

Yea, I was pretty annoyed when they did that - especially after I'd not long sprung for CS6, thinking "oh well, at least the upgrades will cost me less in the future than this up-front purchase".

My current version is 5.7 as well. The issue comes down to new cameras. If I purchase a new camera then I have no choice but to go to the CC version of LR or lose my catalog and all my edits as I shoot RAW and not JPG.

As long as I stay with my current camera, a Canon 7D, I'm good. So maybe instead of a new camera I'll look at better glass but I've got pretty good glass as it stands.

Bassat wrote in post #18088388
I use v5.7 and see no great advantage to v5.7 over v4.x. I will never upgrade to a 'cloud' version of anything I have to rent on a monthly basis. LR 6 is/was available for purchase as a stand-alone program. I don't want/need it so I have no idea how to get it, or even if it is still available.

TonyKInTexas wrote in post #18108988
My current version is 5.7 as well. The issue comes down to new cameras. If I purchase a new camera then I have no choice but to go to the CC version of LR or lose my catalog and all my edits as I shoot RAW and not JPG.

As long as I stay with my current camera, a Canon 7D, I'm good. So maybe instead of a new camera I'll look at better glass but I've got pretty good glass as it stands.

You don't have to buy the CC version of Lightroom though. I thought the standalone version did get the camera raw updates for new models.

Alternatively, download the free DNG converter and convert the raws, as they will then be recognised by an older version of Lightroom.

TonyKInTexas wrote in post #18108988
My current version is 5.7 as well. The issue comes down to new cameras. If I purchase a new camera then I have no choice but to go to the CC version of LR or lose my catalog and all my edits as I shoot RAW and not JPG.

Buying a new camera will not harm your existing edits or your LR catalog. But you probably won't be able to directly process the raw files from a new camera. To process those in LR, you would need to run them through Canon DPP or Camera Raw first. That is pretty awkward. To avoid this, as pointed out, you could upgrade to the standalone version of LR 6.

sploo wrote in post #18109011
You don't have to buy the CC version of Lightroom though. I thought the standalone version did get the camera raw updates for new models.

Alternatively, download the free DNG converter and convert the raws, as they will then be recognised by an older version of Lightroom.

The stand alone version of LR6 may not be getting the camera raw updates any longer. Using the DNG converter a) adds an unnecessary step to the work flow and b) adds more files (I don't delete my CR2 files).

Archibald wrote in post #18109061
Buying a new camera will not harm your existing edits or your LR catalog. But you probably won't be able to directly process the raw files from a new camera. To process those in LR, you would need to run them through Canon DPP or Camera Raw first. That is pretty awkward. To avoid this, as pointed out, you could upgrade to the standalone version of LR 6.

As said above, it adds processing steps which are not there at this time. It also means that tagging takes place later, not earlier in the workflow. Sadly it also means edits are now done in multiple places.

At this time, the LR 6 stand alone gets its updates at a later time than the CC versions. I base this on this thread:

http://blogs.adobe.com …-9-6-1-now-available.html

No, if I get a new camera I'll likely have to either abandon LR or upgrade to CC. Neither choice makes me happy.

TonyKInTexas wrote in post #18109083
The stand alone version of LR6 may not be getting the camera raw updates any longer. Using the DNG converter a) adds an unnecessary step to the work flow and b) adds more files (I don't delete my CR2 files).

As said above, it adds processing steps which are not there at this time. It also means that tagging takes place later, not earlier in the workflow. Sadly it also means edits are now done in multiple places.

At this time, the LR 6 stand alone gets its updates at a later time than the CC versions. I base this on this thread:

http://blogs.adobe.com …-9-6-1-now-available.html

No, if I get a new camera I'll likely have to either abandon LR or upgrade to CC. Neither choice makes me happy.

I would be in the same boat as you if I get a new camera - but also like you (I think), I don't have plans to get a new camera for now. But it will likely happen in the next two or three years.

At that point, when I bring the new body home, decisions will need to be made. Will the standalone version of LR available then be supporting the new raw files? If not, that will result in a photo editor crisis for me. Like you, I will be reluctant to do the workarounds. However, for now I am irresponsibly not worrying about it, and will wait until then to make my decision.

The newly announced 5DMk4 is tempting. I've always wanted a FF camera but can't justify the cost. The 7D does all I need or ask and my glass is pretty good and also does what I need or ask.

I had thought about purchasing the v6 of LR but it does nothing for me. The features in LR6 CC are more tempting but not enough to say take my money monthly.

Before LR I used Aperture. My wife got it for me as a Christmas present just as I was about to purchase LR 4 and for 2 or 3 years I made it work but it got to the point that I didn't care for it. So I got LR4 and then later LR5 based on improved features.

Looked at LR6 but the added features just weren't there for me. But having typed all of the above, I'm off to B&H to look again at the stand alone version of LR6. If they update to the 5DMk4 for the Camera Raw processing then I'm there.

< sigh />

TonyKInTexas wrote in post #18109083
The stand alone version of LR6 may not be getting the camera raw updates any longer.

I'd assume that would happen only when a standalone LR 7 is released, but I've learnt not to assume "common sense" and "Adobe" in the same sentence these days.

sploo wrote in post #18109137
I'd assume that would happen only when a standalone LR 7 is released, but I've learnt not to assume "common sense" and "Adobe" in the same sentence these days.

My thinking is LR7 may be fully CC. If not, what new features would it have considering that LR6 and LR6CC are so very different now?

LR6 stand alone is $142 for download or $142.99 for a DVD. Compared and remember now why I didn't upgrade. Already had software to do HDR so that feature was not a selling point.

TonyKInTexas wrote in post #18109145
My thinking is LR7 may be fully CC. If not, what new features would it have considering that LR6 and LR6CC are so very different now?

LR6 stand alone is $142 for download or $142.99 for a DVD. Compared and remember now why I didn't upgrade. Already had software to do HDR so that feature was not a selling point.

It may happen, but I really hope LR doesn't become cloud only.