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Aug 08, 2016 19:17 |  #16

CheshireCat wrote in post #18089392 (external link)
For portraits:

I would swap the 85/1.8 for the 135/2 anytime.
I would swap the 135/2 for the 85/1.2 anytime.
I would swap the 85/1.2 for the 200/2 anytime.

Is that confusing enough ? ;)

If I had a 200/2, I would swap it for the 24-70/2.8 II, 70-200/2.8 IS II, and 100-400 II from the Canon refurb store.

Who am I kidding. I'll be keeping my 85/1.8 and 135/2.


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Aug 08, 2016 19:55 |  #17

FEChariot wrote in post #18090140 (external link)
If I had a 200/2, I would swap it for the 24-70/2.8 II, 70-200/2.8 IS II, and 100-400 II from the Canon refurb store.

Who am I kidding. I'll be keeping my 85/1.8 and 135/2.

I'd agree. The 200 is amazing but it's a special use type lens. Subtle differences to the 70-200 2.8 IS II... and I mean very subtle. The Tamron 70-200 2.8 holds its own very good against the 200/2. I wouldn't ever really recommend the 200/2 to anyone but maybe a nutcase like me.


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Aug 08, 2016 21:36 |  #18

Talley wrote in post #18090176 (external link)
I'd agree. The 200 is amazing but it's a special use type lens. Subtle differences to the 70-200 2.8 IS II... and I mean very subtle. The Tamron 70-200 2.8 holds its own very good against the 200/2. I wouldn't ever really recommend the 200/2 to anyone but maybe a nutcase like me.

Well, there must be a lot of nutcases around then :)

The 200/2 is better than the 70-200/28 IS II for sharpness and colors, even at f/2.8. But people buy it for rendering and character at f/2.
You also get a great 280/2.8 and a very good 400/4 with teleconverters.
I never used the Tamron zoom, but I would be surprised if it was any better than the Canon counterpart.

Then again, is the difference in quality worth the difference in money ? Quite subjective. You decide.


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Aug 09, 2016 09:33 |  #19

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The Tamron 70-200 2.8 holds its own very good against the 200/2.
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Consider also that the Tamron follows a different convention for directionality than Canon:

  • Canon: FL max right side of scale; infinity distance at right side of scale
  • Tarmon: FL max left side of scale; infinity distance at right side of scale

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Aug 09, 2016 11:29 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #20

Ok, but I didn't write the post you cited (and in fact I strongly doubt that !) :)


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Aug 09, 2016 11:43 |  #21

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Ok, but I didn't write the post you cited (and in fact I strongly doubt that !) :)

What, you mean you don't have a strong opinion about something you've never used?! Do you even go here? :lol:


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Aug 09, 2016 14:59 |  #22

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What, you mean you don't have a strong opinion about something you've never used?! Do you even go here? :lol:

Hahah, as a POTN user I should, but I try not to ! :D


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Aug 09, 2016 15:08 |  #23

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Consider also that the Tamron follows a different convention for directionality than Canon:

  • Canon: FL max right side of scale; infinity distance at right side of scale
  • Tarmon: FL max left side of scale; infinity distance at right side of scale

thats nonsense... point shoot work... thats all i require.


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Aug 09, 2016 19:21 |  #24

Talley wrote in post #18090903 (external link)
thats nonsense... point shoot work... thats all i require.

'nonsense' to you might mean a significant difference to someone else. that is why I stated it as a 'consideration'!


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Aug 09, 2016 20:33 |  #25

generally the usage goes like this for me:

50mm : head to toe shots
85mm : half body shots
100mm : bust-up / shoulder shots
135mm : tight head shots.

note that this does not take glass characteristics and aperture into consideration.
Of course, you can "zoom" with the feet if space is not a concern

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Aug 09, 2016 20:51 |  #26

you can't zoom with feet. It's about perspective. Ideally you'll be 8-10' away for portraits and you pick the focal length of lens for the framing you want.


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Aug 09, 2016 22:17 |  #27

Talley wrote in post #18091169 (external link)
you can't zoom with feet. It's about perspective. Ideally you'll be 8-10' away for portraits and you pick the focal length of lens for the framing you want.

Or you get a 200/2 and "zoom with feet", the perspective distortion will not be noticeable on the subject, and the background perspective will be...
... wait a moment...
what background ? :D


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Aug 10, 2016 06:44 |  #28

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Consider also that the Tamron follows a different convention for directionality than Canon:

  • Canon: FL max right side of scale; infinity distance at right side of scale
  • Tarmon: FL max left side of scale; infinity distance at right side of scale

I am pretty sure the new Tamron primes focus the canon way while most of the zooms focus Nikon to way.


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Aug 10, 2016 07:15 |  #29

FEChariot wrote in post #18091435 (external link)
I am pretty sure the new Tamron primes focus the canon way while most of the zooms focus Nikon to way.

press shutter = all focus. done.


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Aug 10, 2016 07:23 |  #30

CheshireCat wrote in post #18091240 (external link)
Or you get a 200/2 and "zoom with feet", the perspective distortion will not be noticeable on the subject, and the background perspective will be...
... wait a moment...
what background ? :D

I find the 85 1.2 or sigma 85 1.4 offer better blurring capabilities than the 200/2. You just need so much distance with the 200 unless your using the 200 for head shots then it destroys the background.


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