So my wife no longer wants the 80D

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18095990
Have you considered other lenses? The Canon 17-55 focusing is crazy fast and accurate. If AF is your primary concern, or one of them, you need to move away from the Sigma glass.

I think it's more like a neck-and-neck contest between the wife's wish for a smaller camera with some versatility vs. Talley's wish for a new personal exploratory project ... then AF speed coming in a distant third. But then again, I'm just armchair quarterbacking this, so what do I know?

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18095990
Have you considered other lenses? The Canon 17-55 focusing is crazy fast and accurate. If AF is your primary concern, or one of them, you need to move away from the Sigma glass. I really enjoy Sigma too, but it simply doesn't have the initial AF acquisition speed of the Canon USM glass, L or the top EFS lenses. I have had countless Sigmas, and still have 2 right now, but I have been moving to Canon for the AF speed. 3 of the lenses you are using on the 80D isn't doing the 80D AF justice, IMO.

I get it but don't forget she wants smaller size. The 17-55 is larger/heavier than the sigma 17-50... she never even uses the other lenses at all. she's used the 70-300 twice and the 30 1.4 I picked up on a bargain for her to try out and she hasn't.

Her priorities right now:

1. Smaller
2. Focus accuracy
3. WIFI
4. On board flash
5. blurry backgrounds

Yes... she wants the miracle cure lol

I've got a $350 gift card at Best Buy... they have the X-E2s w/ 18-55 for 999. I think I'll just go this route... tell her to deal with it.

PineBomb wrote in post #18096001
I think it's more like a neck-and-neck contest between the wife's wish for a smaller camera with some versatility vs. Talley's wish for a new personal exploratory project ... then AF speed coming in a distant third. But then again, I'm just armchair quarterbacking this, so what do I know?

dang... your good.

Yes. I think this is my way to give her what she wants... then I can get the XT-2 and have some smaller prime/travel type setup along w/ keeping the Canon system for the specialty stuff (sports, long glass low light stuff)

I can manipulate this into getting what I want too ya know

Talley wrote in post #18096005
I've got a $350 gift card at Best Buy... they have the X-E2s w/ 18-55 for 999. I think I'll just go this route... tell her to deal with it.

If she wants a smaller camera get the Fuji X-T10. You will notice how more compact the X-T10 is over the X-E2. Also the X-T10 is more "slr" body vs rangefinder of the X-E2s. X-T10 has extra dials so its a tad easier to access some camera functions.

Here's pics of the gear I used when I documented a car show. The other photo is pics of the two fuji bodies I won with additional body grip. Even with the bolt on grip the camera is still tiny and light. However the ergonomics improve bigtime so you will not drop the camera

Don't be surprised if you suddenly appreciate the "fuji look" over canon. A processed fuji raw files is very pleasing to the eyes. Jpgs straight out of camera is very good compared to any canon/nikon I've ever used.

I was just talking to another fuji user that also owned canon gear (6d, bag full of lenses) and he even agrees with me that a 16mpx sensor fuji with kit lens is easily on par or surpasses a Canon 24-105 or 24-70L f/2.8mk1 image quality.

If you want a reasonably price longer telephoto the 55-200 f/3.5-4.8 produces similar results like using a 70-300L (minus the reach on a canon crop)or 70-200 f/4is from Canon. The difference is MASSIVE weight loss over a canon configuration.

The 80D destroys the X-E2(s) in AF.

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Would love to get her the XT-10 but no flash built in....

Talley wrote in post #18096047
Would love to get her the XT-10 but no flash built in....

it is built in

http://static1.squares​pace.com …film+X-T10+XT10+flash.jpg

AlanU wrote in post #18096052
it is built in

http://static1.squares​pace.com …film+X-T10+XT10+flash.jpg

SOLD!

honestly I had no clue... but yes... XT-10 is now on my radar.

AlanU wrote in post #18096052
it is built in

http://static1.squares​pace.com …film+X-T10+XT10+flash.jpg

One nice side benefit of the X-E2 design is that you can gently bend the flash up with your left hand for bounce. Alan, I haven't handled the X-T10. Doesn't its hump prevent this?

PineBomb wrote in post #18096059
One nice side benefit of the X-E2 design is that you can gently bend the flash up with your left hand for bounce. Alan, I haven't handled the X-T10. Doesn't its hump prevent this?

Yes the X-e2 can bounce flash so it's a tad more convenient if your wanting to use on board flash.

Both of my 16mpx bodies have an overseas aluminum add on grip with GT5000 tape.

The X-T10 on board flash cannot be manipulated to bounce. i've only tested it once to see if it works but i really cannot use on board flash.

I chose my X-T10 over my X-E2 recently as i visited the Woodland zoo in Seattle. It's a tighter package and the grip really changes the overall experience in shooting vs no grip. The X-E2 is slightly less ergonomically pleasing to my average sized hands. However that grip on the X-E2 is vastly better than holding a small camera without bolt on grip.

M3 came in... First thing I do is put the EVF on the camera and she looked at me with a hideous look and said remove that immediately. Secondly... everything about this camera is perfect for her and she admits shes OK with the 18-55 as long as the pictures are sharp. Third... It all comes down in the end if she is OK with the focusing of the camera based on what she will be shooting. Time will tell. I'll give it about 4 weeks and is she is GOOD with the camera then 80D will be for sale along with all the lenses next to it in my signature.

Right now I'm using a Fotodiox Pro EF-EFm adapter and the EF-S 24mm since I don't have anything else small for her. I'm actually surprised at it's speed between shots. It's ready rather quickly compared to what I remember the 1st gen being.

So now:

1. Smaller Done
2. Focus accuracy Real test has begun
3. WIFI Done
4. On board flash Done
5. blurry backgrounds As good as a 22/2 will do

the M3 doesnt come with the 22? That should be the defacto lens for that camera, it's one of canon's finest accomplishments, the whole M system would be nothing without it.

Charlie wrote in post #18096646
the M3 doesnt come with the 22? That should be the defacto lens for that camera, it's one of canon's finest accomplishments, the whole M system would be nothing without it.

I bought an Adorama deal where it was body and a EV1 viewfinder for 468.

Just waiting on deal for a 22 used now. I had my teeth pulled last friday and forgot to send money to a guy on this site for a 1st gen body and 22mm for 165. was gonna sell the body keep the lens and sell the viewfinder and probably be sitting around 425 for the m3 + 22

good thing is I get to keep the funds from her old kit

More toys.... Ahhhhh. I've been mixing toys and needs, got a budget 50/0.95 coming in myself, good times