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Aug 13, 2016 12:56 |  #1

I put my new Samyang 12/2.8 fisheye on my 6D and I can't seem to pry it off! I'm afraid I'm addicted to it! I'm walking around trying to figure out how to make every shot work with a fisheye. Is there an antidote? lol...


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Aug 13, 2016 17:18 |  #2

Scrumhalf wrote in post #18094505 (external link)
I put my new Samyang 12/2.8 fisheye on my 6D and I can't seem to pry it off! I'm afraid I'm addicted to it! I'm walking around trying to figure out how to make every shot work with a fisheye. Is there an antidote? lol...

Yes. Take a close portrait of your girlfriend/wife and show her the photo. She will get rid of it for you :D.


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Aug 14, 2016 06:53 |  #3

Yes, there is an antidote.... time. Years ago I bought a fisheye lens. I was crazy about it when I got it. Used it 3 times the first week I got it. Then I put it in a closet and never used it again. I sold it 3 years later. I found out that for me the fisheye was a gimmicky one trick pony that was great fun at first, but then got old in a short time.




  
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Aug 14, 2016 07:24 |  #4

I have the ef 8-15mm f4 and I admit, it is great fun. Perhaps the most fun lens I have but eventually reality sets back in. Give it time!;-)a


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Aug 14, 2016 11:58 |  #5

Is there a way to contract fish eye fever...i bought a broken 8mm, fixed it...used it on one trip, and never again...i cant even think of spots when id use it


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Aug 14, 2016 12:02 |  #6

Tight spaces, wide vistas, goofy kids - all are game! :)

After 4 days traveling with it along the Oregon coast, I guess the novelty is wearing off now. I did mess up a few shots where my Rok 14/2.8 would have worked better!


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Aug 14, 2016 12:16 |  #7

A FE has limited use compared with more conventional focal lengths, but IMO it's hardly a gimmick. It has its time and place--even for portraits to some extent. I got rid of my 8mm FE when I sold off my Canon crop gear some time ago. Just yesterday I was going through the images in Lightroom taken with "unknown" lenses just to review those made with the FE and maybe take another crack at them. I really do miss that piece of glass. If you ever go through a dry spell in which your output isn't feeling impactful or creative, slapping a FE on the camera is a great way to hit the reset button.

If you're feeling the fish kink, follow that impulse and ride it out.


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Aug 14, 2016 13:03 as a reply to  @ PineBomb's post |  #8

I agree. The FE mania comes and goes, and my Canon 15/2.8 FE is always ready for the ride ;)

A FE projection can be remapped in software, and indeed the FE has been my "poor man ultrawide" for years :). Just have Lightroom correct the distortion automatically to convert the image to rectilinear. Resolution is compromised at the borders, but it works fine especially if you have a high MP camera.
Otherwise, make sure that the perspective vanishing point is in the center of the image, and you will achieve a very convincing rectilinear-like image without software aid.

Also, did you know there are different kinds of FE projections ?
My favorite is the stereographic projection, as it avoids the strong compression at the borders, but I have not found any such lens for full frame.
You can also convert projections in software at the cost of some image resolution loss.

Finally, and most importantly, experiment and have fun ! ;)


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Aug 14, 2016 14:29 |  #9

The cure is an UWA rectilinear. ;-)a




  
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Aug 14, 2016 15:18 |  #10

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Aug 14, 2016 17:02 |  #11

CheshireCat wrote in post #18095321 (external link)
I agree. The FE mania comes and goes, and my Canon 15/2.8 FE is always ready for the ride ;)

A FE projection can be remapped in software, and indeed the FE has been my "poor man ultrawide" for years :). Just have Lightroom correct the distortion automatically to convert the image to rectilinear.

I have the same lens and LR. At 100% correction, the corners get way too stretched for my liking. I prefer something around 50%. That's the nice thing about LR: You can "correct" as much or as little of the fisheye distortion as you like. That said, I haven't used mine much lately. Of course I've mainly been taking pictures of the kids and not traveling as much as I used to. That might have something to do with it.




  
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Aug 14, 2016 17:07 |  #12

The Samyang 12mm and the Canon 15mm both have 180 degree coverage on a full frame sensor. How does that work with two different focal lengths having the same field of view? Is one "fishier" than the other?




  
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Aug 14, 2016 17:14 |  #13

CheshireCat wrote in post #18095321 (external link)
My favorite is the stereographic projection, as it avoids the strong compression at the borders, but I have not found any such lens for full frame.


Such lens does exist - and that's the OP's lens (Samyang 12mm fisheye). It has stereographic projection according to lenstip:

http://www.lenstip.com …8_ED_AS_NCS_Fis​h-eye.html (external link)


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Aug 14, 2016 20:06 as a reply to  @ pulsar123's post |  #14

The link given by pulsar123, above, also mentions in passing that the 8mm/3.5 Samyang fisheye lens is "stereographic".

I bought the Rokinon version over two years ago and use it quite a lot. Using DxO processing software I find I can correct the distortion and get pleasing results. The angle of coverage when doing this is greater than for my Canon 10-22EFs, and sharpness is competitive with that lens. I hardly use the 10-22EFS any more. It is hard to carry both lenses, and I can always "defish" the Rokinon.

I say to the OP "Keep the fisheye."


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Aug 14, 2016 21:34 |  #15

Thanks! The fisheye is here to stay, I've had too much fun with it!


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