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Aug 17, 2016 05:54 |  #1

How does the AF speed & accuracy (especially in continues focus) compares between the X-T2 and 6D?


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Aug 17, 2016 06:01 |  #2

In my country you can now get a brand new 6D with the 24-70 f/4 lens for slightly less of the cost than the the X-T2 with the 18-55 f/2.8-4
Or the 6D and the 24-105 L + 50 f/1.8 STM for slightly less than the X-T2 and 18-55


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Aug 17, 2016 07:51 |  #3

It's always hard to say considering the XT-2 is not really released yet. But I happen to own the 6D and the XT-1. To give you an idea of what I think - I do have the XT-2 on pre-order and the 6D for sale. I am keeping the XT-1 as my backup camera.

Even though the XT-1 is an APS-C camera I find the image quality to be very comparable. That is likely a subjective decision, but bottom line I find the image quality and high ISO performance of the two to be about the same. As for AF speed, once again I find both to be about the same. This is why I have the XT-2 pre-ordered. There are many improvements to the AF which will make it surpass the 6D considerably. I am thinking it will be somewhat like a 6D with the 7DII AF and reach. My Fuji XF 100-400 lens will arrive tomorrow so I will be ready for some great outdoors shooting.

I know this is a Canon site, but bottom line I have decided to go 100% Fuji and will likely be dropping off as I sell my Canon equipment.


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Aug 17, 2016 09:03 as a reply to  @ Lumens's post |  #4

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Aug 17, 2016 11:20 |  #5

Lumens wrote in post #18098028 (external link)
It's always hard to say considering the XT-2 is not really released yet. But I happen to own the 6D and the XT-1. To give you an idea of what I think - I do have the XT-2 on pre-order and the 6D for sale. I am keeping the XT-1 as my backup camera.

Even though the XT-1 is an APS-C camera I find the image quality to be very comparable. That is likely a subjective decision, but bottom line I find the image quality and high ISO performance of the two to be about the same. As for AF speed, once again I find both to be about the same. This is why I have the XT-2 pre-ordered. There are many improvements to the AF which will make it surpass the 6D considerably. I am thinking it will be somewhat like a 6D with the 7DII AF and reach. My Fuji XF 100-400 lens will arrive tomorrow so I will be ready for some great outdoors shooting.

I know this is a Canon site, but bottom line I have decided to go 100% Fuji and will likely be dropping off as I sell my Canon equipment.

My findings are in line with yours, though I do think the 6D had an edge in high ISO performance, the X-T2 should be close though.

I'm also going fully Fuji with the X-T2, selling my a7S within the next few weeks.


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Aug 17, 2016 14:07 |  #6

According to some reviews the X-T2 outperforms the sony A6300 in AF. However you must select the type of "action" photography to maximize keeper rate.

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=QE0M-D39YZM (external link)

Until I personally own an X-T2 and use it extensively I still cannot switch to fuji as a primary.

The new EF-X500 flash has not been released yet so it's not a proven product. HSS/TTL in an OEM flash is a must for me. I must see how it can withstand abuse or not.....

What i find is that my fuji 16mpx image quality is great but I still think canon still has sharper images when I compare my 24Lmk2 vs my fuji 16mm f/1.4. Big price difference but if your talking about pixel peeping IQ analysis I still think even a Canon 35mm f/2Is will have much more micro contrast/sharpness than a fuji 16mm. This can become "splitting hairs" situation but it all comes down to your preference.

Will I buy an X-T2? yes!! Will I consider another 5d3 or 5d4?? absolutely!!!

Canon needs to improve AF in the next generation 6d.


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Aug 17, 2016 16:05 |  #7

I'm kind of surprised those cameras are so expensive. Early adopter fee sounds like it'll be like the 7Dii, would certainly scare me a bit.


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Aug 17, 2016 18:38 |  #8

Charlie wrote in post #18098444 (external link)
I'm kind of surprised those cameras are so expensive. Early adopter fee sounds like it'll be like the 7Dii, would certainly scare me a bit.

The image quality I've achieved with a Fuji 16mpx sensor is quite impressive. Looking back at my Canon 5D raw files I've can see a similar film like rendition from my Fuji crop sensor. The Fuji has lush files very much like the ones I fell in love with my 5dc canon full frame.

I'd be quite certain that a non fuji user jumping into an X-T2 would be pleasantly surprised with fantastic files.

For majority of my style of shooting I would happily grab my 5dmk2, 5d3 or purchase 6d (cheaper than X-t2).

I still prefer Fuji files over Canon crop sensor files. Truthfully I'd gladly shoot an 80d or 7dmk2 since at the end of the day the photos will look great sitting 3-5 feet away from a large IPS monitor or on 300dpi print. Throwing gear head mentality aside I put an incredible amount of emphasis on photography and not always gear.

I still have a comfort zone in shooting Canon over fuji when shooting paid events.

Fuji has really become scary good!!!


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Aug 18, 2016 09:33 |  #9

Charlie wrote in post #18098444 (external link)
I'm kind of surprised those cameras are so expensive. Early adopter fee sounds like it'll be like the 7Dii, would certainly scare me a bit.

Not sure how you figure that. The X-T1 has only come down in price by a few hundred bucks in 2 years, and that's mostly factoring in the rebates. The X-Pro1 didn't get cheaper for years either.

I think the value of Fuji's hold much stronger than Sony's do.


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Aug 18, 2016 09:58 |  #10

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Not sure how you figure that. The X-T1 has only come down in price by a few hundred bucks in 2 years, and that's mostly factoring in the rebates. The X-Pro1 didn't get cheaper for years either.

I think the value of Fuji's hold much stronger than Sony's do.

mirrorless cameras generally take a nose dive in resale value, especially high end models, similar to high end crop camera models.

the 7D mii was like 1800 retail, then took a prompt nose dive in prices, the X-t2 will likely go on used market by spring for ~1000, that would be my guess.

X-t1 is an established product that sells for ~700 on the used market, no reason to compare that to the X-t2.

if you compare high end sony A7rii, out for a year 3200, used market goes for 2500, $700 loss. That's not a terribly bad proportion.

I dont know what the high end fuji is, but the X-t1 pre rebate is 1300, selling for 700 for months already, thats $500 loss on a 1300 camera.

if comparing similarly priced cameras, the A6300 goes for 1K, a X-t1 after rebate goes for 1K, and I dont see the XT-1 holding prices over the A6300.


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Aug 18, 2016 11:09 |  #11

Charlie,

US folks are sooo lucky!!

In Canada the retail of the aging Fuji X-T1 is still 1499 CDN and it's on sale for 1099 CDN!!! I'm not usually lucky but for once I scored a brand new store purchased X-E2 for $380cdn which virtually performs like an X-T1.

The Sony A6300 goes for $1349 in Canada!!! fuji X-t2 will go for around $1949!! Canon 6d is $1800 Canadian toilet dollar causing $$$$ in camera gear!!!

Looks like the X-T2 will be a decent video rig for me to play with..... F-Log profiles or even using the typical film simulation preset looks pretty darn good!!!

Regarldless this stuff is always a money pit!!


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Aug 18, 2016 12:41 |  #12

Where is a good place to buy used mirror less cameras? The for sale forum here is still dominated by Canon DSLRs.




  
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Aug 18, 2016 12:50 as a reply to  @ mike_d's post |  #13

Which mirrorless system? There are specific forums for each one with various levels of buy/sell activity. Otherwise, Fred Miranda and eBay are pretty good sources.


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Aug 18, 2016 12:50 |  #14

AlanU wrote in post #18099094 (external link)
Charlie,

US folks are sooo lucky!!

In Canada the retail of the aging Fuji X-T1 is still 1499 CDN and it's on sale for 1099 CDN!!! I'm not usually lucky but for once I scored a brand new store purchased X-E2 for $380cdn which virtually performs like an X-T1.

The Sony A6300 goes for $1349 in Canada!!! fuji X-t2 will go for around $1949!! Canon 6d is $1800 Canadian toilet dollar causing $$$$ in camera gear!!!

Looks like the X-T2 will be a decent video rig for me to play with..... F-Log profiles or even using the typical film simulation preset looks pretty darn good!!!

Regarldless this stuff is always a money pit!!

My brother tells me the same, he's in Australia. Consumerism good for us in that regard.

mike_d wrote in post #18099169 (external link)
Where is a good place to buy used mirror less cameras? The for sale forum here is still dominated by Canon DSLRs.

Fred Miranda forum, fleabay.


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Aug 18, 2016 13:03 |  #15

Charlie wrote in post #18099027 (external link)
mirrorless cameras generally take a nose dive in resale value, especially high end models, similar to high end crop camera models.

the 7D mii was like 1800 retail, then took a prompt nose dive in prices, the X-t2 will likely go on used market by spring for ~1000, that would be my guess.

X-t1 is an established product that sells for ~700 on the used market, no reason to compare that to the X-t2.

if you compare high end sony A7rii, out for a year 3200, used market goes for 2500, $700 loss. That's not a terribly bad proportion.

I dont know what the high end fuji is, but the X-t1 pre rebate is 1300, selling for 700 for months already, thats $500 loss on a 1300 camera.

if comparing similarly priced cameras, the A6300 goes for 1K, a X-t1 after rebate goes for 1K, and I dont see the XT-1 holding prices over the A6300.

Ok, let's take a more direct look, the X-Pro2 has been out for about 6 months, if you're really patient and snipe ads you might be able to get one for $1250, usually closer to $1350. So a $350-450 hit over half a year isn't too bad for any camera from what I observed. I bought my 6D as a kit for $2100, sold the body only about a year later for $1250 with a grip and some extras (going rate for new body was $1800 at the time), so I'm failing to see how the X-T2 is any worse of a purchase.

Any new camera is going to take a hit on the used market, if you really want to play it safe then buy used (like I usually do), I'm just failing to see how your argument is exclusive to the X-T2.


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