Canon 5D Mark IV -- Time to Discuss!

umphotography wrote in post #18129898
I disagree

People need t grow some kahones. I just climbed Mt Whitney with a 1Dx2, a 70-200 and a 17-35.....These camera are not heavy. My steal toes work boots weigh about the same

Try that in high altitude!

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #18129264
Is anyone else slightly unsettled by the reviews that are raving about how it's a great DSLR, nearly as good as the D810, which is being replaced any week now, are we about to be left behind again??

The reviews I am reading might be saying that the sensor is "nearly as good as D810", but they are not saying that about the camera which has a few steps ahead of the D810. These are not the same thing.

Further, the price points (vs. D810 at launch, and 5D3 at launch) are near identical.

This is s a thread about 5D4. We could post a thread in comparing cameras, where the feature set of the 5D4 woudl in fact be somewhat ahead of the D810.

FLiPxJB wrote in post #18129879
This might be a rookie question, but this is the first time i've had dual slots for memory. Am i able to record video on the CF card only and RAWs on the SD automatically?

Not to my knowledge - I've not seen any settings that would route video to one card and photos to another sorry

I'm all happy about the new settings for back button AF... made a video about it

having 12x different settings for BBF is astounding and life changing

http://blog.planet5d.c​om …eature-that-blew-me-away/

gjl711 wrote in post #18129352
... but there doesn't seem to be a new Exmore out there so I suspect the 810 replacement will be a fine tuning on their already great product....

Isn't the new exmore the 42MP in the A7RII ?

Talley wrote in post #18129384
Bingo.

You guys picking apart IQ at the pixel level... ppfff... 110% of americans who look at images DO NOT CARE about pixel level IQ and still love images from 10yr old cameras. IT'S NOT THE CAMERA THAT PRODUCES GREAT IMAGES.... THEY JUST SIT THERE WAITING FOR THAT TINY NUGGET BEHIND YOUR EYEBALLS TO TELL IT WHAT TO DO

But us 5D4 adorers have just spent the last 2,320 posts praising the IQ improvements of the 5D4 ? (among other things)


Anyway, if absolute IQ is what people want, that's what is in the 5Ds, but no one seems to remember that.

Colorblinded wrote in post #18129886
I can understand the slight rearrangement, otherwise the grip would be quite tall, but the change in parts used is a bit odd.

Not quite sure how matching the body arrangement would make the grip tall?

umphotography wrote in post #18129898
I disagree

People need t grow some kahones. I just climbed Mt Whitney with a 1Dx2, a 70-200 and a 17-35.....These camera are not heavy. My steal toes work boots weigh about the same

Everything's relative - an extra kilo of gear is a reduction of 1 litre of water carried, and you can't drink a camera.

Assuming you weren't up that mountain to chase something that was moving, if you'd had the option of a small, light, weather sealed body that gave the same image quality there'd be no sensible reason not to take it.

I've lugged a gripped 5D3 with lenses on mountain hikes too - doesn't mean it was my smartest idea. I would concede that the grip means two batteries, which meant it was good for the whole day's shooting... which meant not having to open a battery door in horizontal rain.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18129919
Isn't the new exmore the 42MP in the A7RII ?

I believe that's correct. Sony makes a great sensor, I just don't care for the rest of the camera.

umphotography wrote in post #18129898
I disagree

People need t grow some kahones. I just climbed Mt Whitney with a 1Dx2, a 70-200 and a 17-35.....These camera are not heavy. My steal toes work boots weigh about the same

While true but everyone weight perception is different. No fault to anyone.

There is many options of fine glass for people to choose. Lets not dispute someones feelings towards heavy. I handhold my 120-300 for 4 hours of football.... but I'm not taking it on a vacation to disney where I carry my bag for 14 hours. My limit on 14 hours is about 14lbs total bag weight. I did 16lbs and I was fatigued pretty good after 16 hours.

A complete fuji lineup I weighed in at 8lbs and that is a bag I could wear from the time I wake up to the time I goto sleep.

Likeweise my 450AW bag fully loaded with lighting/vid/photo gear was 34lbs. My limit on that was about 1 Hour.... but I'm no weight lifter either

So... Please define your kahones.... how much is in your bag? And yes, I understand military carries 40-80lbs but many I know on patrol would limit them to 25-30lbs.

planet5D wrote in post #18129915
Not to my knowledge - I've not seen any settings that would route video to one card and photos to another sorry

Video will be recorded to the card you have set to be the playback card.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18129926
Anyway, if absolute IQ is what people want, that's what is in the 5Ds, but no one seems to remember that.

Depends of course what's defined by IQ - resolution and detail in good light; sure. Best high ISO, or best low ISO DR, not so much.

It makes me wonder where Nikon will go with the D810 replacement. With Canon having a fairly clear separation between the "new normal" of ~30MP in the 5D4 and the high res 5Ds, will Nikon take the new body towards resolution, or will they try to stick with something close to the current 36MP and just make that even better. It would then be more of an obvious direct competitor with the 5D4.

I guess they could take the body in the 5Ds direction (large MP) and position the D750 replacement as a 5D4 competitor.

Having said that, they clearly weren't following Canon when the original D800 appeared (vs the 5D3) so maybe they'll go for the 42MP sensor and have it as something separate from the 5D competition.

For those discussing options on doing dual cards and video this is how I have mine setup:

CF Slot - 64GB Lexar 1066x
SD Slot - 256GB Sandisk UHS-1 Extreme Pro

I have RAW sent to CF slot and JPG sent to SD slot and I have the SD card set to be the playback mode so that way all video gets recorded to the SD card. I did this because that specific card will record 4K no issues and the size of the card means I can record up to 1hr total of 4K video IF I wanted to but either way this will ensure I have plenty of space for photos on the CF card as I'll be able to get around 1500 raw images on that card and the SD slot will be the JPG backup but mostly act as the video card.

Best of both worlds.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18129919
Isn't the new exmore the 42MP in the A7RII ?

Isn't that almost 2 years old? I guess it would be new for Nikon but the sensor has been in market for some time.

Talley wrote in post #18129937
For those discussing options on doing dual cards and video this is how I have mine setup:

CF Slot - 64GB Lexar 1066x
SD Slot - 256GB Sandisk UHS-1 Extreme Pro

I have RAW sent to CF slot and JPG sent to SD slot and I have the SD card set to be the playback mode so that way all video gets recorded to the SD card. I did this because that specific card will record 4K no issues and the size of the card means I can record up to 1hr total of 4K video IF I wanted to but either way this will ensure I have plenty of space for photos on the CF card as I'll be able to get around 1500 raw images on that card and the SD slot will be the JPG backup but mostly act as the video card.

Best of both worlds.

Any chance you could run a burst test with that setup, then change to record both on the CF card only? I'd be interested to see if the CF card is slowed down to SD speed when writing to both, or whether there'd be a performance benefit from sending the JPEGs to the SD card and just storing raw on the CF.

gjl711 wrote in post #18129938
Isn't that almost 2 years old? I guess it would be new for Nikon but the sensor has been in market for some time.

I thought it was in they're latest cam? Maybe been out for 6months? Is that right?