Canon 5D Mark IV -- Time to Discuss!

Has anybody noticed inconsistent focusing / sharpness when shooting using the timer?

I plan on buying the 5d to go along with my 7dii. I was wondering if anyone here has used the 600 f4 IS ver I along with the 1.4 extender ver iii on the 5d? Just want to know if the focusing seems to be noticeably slower etc when using the extender? I will be using it mainly for birds. I wouldn't think it would be noticeably different than an 800 5.6 or at least that's what I'm hoping.
Thanks.

Hmmm. The wife might be caving. Trying to downplay it. It's like getting a fish on the line. Don't want to scare it off.

sipowicz wrote in post #18163547
Has anybody noticed inconsistent focusing / sharpness when shooting using the timer?

I haven't - but I am finding liveview AF surprisingly flaky. It will refuse to even attempt to focus if my 100L macro is way out of focus, and in moderately low light conditions I've found you really need to find an edge for it to lock on (whereas the viewfinder is fine on the same target).

I was shooting using a 2s timer today (no apparent problems), but are you seeing odd issues with a longer timer (or do you mean the interval timer)?

randy98mtu wrote in post #18163868
Hmmm. The wife might be caving. Trying to downplay it. It's like getting a fish on the line. Don't want to scare it off.

The strategy that I have been using is to start plugging the next model up from what you really want. If you want a 5d4, start talking about the 1dx2 for a month. If you want the 100-400 II, start talking about the 200-400. Then about a week before the purchase, tell her you feel you don't really need the higher priced one and say you want the cheaper one. She thinks you are then 'saving' money. If you really want a 1dx2 or 200-400, you might need to start talking about cars...

FEChariot wrote in post #18163909
The strategy that has been to start plugging the next model up from what you really want. If you want a 5d4, start talking about the 1dx2 for a month. If you want the 100-400 II, start talking about the 200-400. Then about a week before the purchase, tell her you fell you don't really need the higher priced one and say you want the cheaper one and you really don't need the more expensive one. If you really want a 1dx2 or 200-400, you might need to start talking about cars...

...or cinema lenses

sploo wrote in post #18163912
...or cinema lenses

Or girlfriends...

Yahtzee! Depth of field shot taken with the 7 Plus.

Talley wrote in post #18163949
Or girlfriends...

It's very expensive to upgrade those though, and there's no service centre where you can send them for fault fixing.

They also have a tendency to hit you if they read posts like this.

sploo wrote in post #18163959
It's very expensive to upgrade those though, and there's no service centre where you can send them for fault fixing.

They also have a tendency to hit you if they read posts like this.

Or worse when your married and they read posts like that lol

Talley wrote in post #18163961
Or worse when your married and they read posts like that lol

Fortunately my boss isn't looking over my shoulder at the moment; hence the reason I felt I could get away with it

I was on a tripod shooting a still object. I got sharper photos by pressing the shutter button on normal one shot mode than using the 2s timer. Shooting on manual mode so the settings were pretty much the same. I found that strange but I did not do extensive testing to see what was going on.

Went out today with my new body and 500f4...I took 330 shots of some deer that were about 20-25 meters from me, got home and checked the images in Lightroom and only had about 10 images that were sharp !!!
Exactly the same problem as the body that I returned thinking that it was faulty...
The shots that were sharp do not have the detail that I used to get with this lens and my 6D...Images used to be rich and full of detail...with the 5D4 the images seem to lack the same amount of detail and look a bit flat... Could my lens be the problem?? I would not have thought so as it performed perfectly on the 6D...
The weather here in the UK is pretty poor at the moment so it is hard to go out and test in ideal light but I am going to give my 70-200II a good testing on the camera and see what that lens performs like...I dont have another body so Im not able to test my 500 on another camera..
I truely wish I had not sold my 6D to "upgrade" to the 5D4....it is feeling like the most expensive mistake I have ever made..

don1163 wrote in post #18164467
Went out today with my new body and 500f4...I took 330 shots of some deer that were about 20-25 meters from me, got home and checked the images in Lightroom and only had about 10 images that were sharp !!!
Exactly the same problem as the body that I returned thinking that it was faulty...
The shots that were sharp do not have the detail that I used to get with this lens and my 6D...Images used to be rich and full of detail...with the 5D4 the images seem to lack the same amount of detail and look a bit flat... Could my lens be the problem?? I would not have thought so as it performed perfectly on the 6D...
The weather here in the UK is pretty poor at the moment so it is hard to go out and test in ideal light but I am going to give my 70-200II a good testing on the camera and see what that lens performs like...I dont have another body so Im not able to test my 500 on another camera..
I truely wish I had not sold my 6D to "upgrade" to the 5D4....it is feeling like the most expensive mistake I have ever made..

Don't be frustrated. I've seen your issues/struggles. I have a question though... why go out and shoot 300 shots and then wait to come back to lightroom to check focus? Do you (when getting an new camera) not chimp and zoom into 100% and really put every lens through it's paces before you go out and shoot? I do. I typically take ~ 100-150 photos around the house, outside, indoor, outdoor, various lighting etc with every single lens to get a feel for how it acts. Sometimes lenses will front focus in fluorescent lighting and back focus in daylight... or focus differently on different bodies OR at different focus distances as well. Right know I know how every single one of my lenses acts. it took me a bit more time with the 200L and 1.4xIII combo but I've slowly dialed it in.

One thing to consider is my 200L F2... on my 5D3 it took a +1 mfa... on my 5D4 it took a +13. throw on the 1.4xIII and it's now at a +11 to a +12 which I'm slowly trying to figure out exactly which one works better.... again I've seen with the TC it focuses different near infinity than it does near MFD. A range of around +9 to +12 is where it's operating most at... I have to dial in the proper MFA for the distance I will be using it most at unless I send off to Canon for correcting (both lens, tc and body).... but if I do that then every third party lens will then need readjusting.

The LCD on the 5D4 is very very good. Exactly what I see with focus errors in the LCD I see on my monitor in lightroom. There shouldn't be any reason not to chimp to dial in a lens.

I didnt just go out and shoot 300+ shoots before checking focus in Lightroom......I spent most of the previous day shooting various things around the woods and field where I live and setting up a target at home in order for it to be right when I went out today...
I was shooting and chimping and adjusting mfa while I was shooting the deer today.....I does not seen to matter what it is set at I just do not get good results...
I went out after posting earlier and shot with my 70-200 and got much better results so I suspect it is some sort of issue between my 500 and the 5D4....Maybe the lens could benefit from a service or being sent in to Canon to be set up with the body..