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Aug 26, 2016 23:40 |  #1

Who have used or is currently using this set up?

I am waiting for mine to come in the mail. I am aware of its limitations, and decided to pick one up simply for its size. I will pair it with my X-T10/X70 via radio triggers to make it a very portable off-camera portrait set up. Also hoping it will allow me to get quick candids.

Intending to hold the flash in my left hand angling it towards the subject from different directions. Just wondering what others' thoughts are.


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Aug 27, 2016 06:52 |  #2

I don't have that flash but I just thought I would mention if you use a standard Canon OC-E3 flash cord it will allow you to use TTL flash with a Fuji setup. (Or at least it does with my Nissin i40 and Fuji X-T1.) If you are using radio triggers I think everything will have to be manual unless you have those RoboSHOOT triggers which are fairly pricey. If you are planning on hand holding the flash and you want TTL, the cord may be a good option.




  
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Aug 27, 2016 10:06 as a reply to  @ Fred G. Unn's post |  #3

Thanks for the suggestion! I know a lot of photographers use the cord for TTL. I might pick one up although in most cases I'd rather give up TTL for wireless application. Especially since this flash unit has physical dials for easy to change settings.


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Aug 27, 2016 16:21 |  #4

Good tips. Thanks for the info.




  
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Sep 06, 2016 03:28 as a reply to  @ ticker67's post |  #5

I have this flash and like it a lot for what it is. It is compact, well built, easy to use--the dials are the best flash interface I have ever worked with.

I have used it off camera with the Canon cord. I also like that it can be triggered by a flash on your camera and I have used it this way. I haven't tried using radio triggers with it, but my radios are bigger than it is :).

A few cautions: 2 AAA batteries are not going to provide quick recycle time at full power. Using rechargeable batteries helps make it run faster. Make sure you don't accidentally switch settings if you are holding it in your hand.

Fuji's TTL also works well for fill-flash. Just dial it back a stop or two so it's subtle and it comes out pretty well.


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Sep 06, 2016 17:17 as a reply to  @ F2Bthere's post |  #6

Thanks for the tips. After using it for about a week with the yongnuo triggers, here's a couple of things I've noticed:

Pros:
TTL works fairly well when mounted on the hotshoe.
Slave mode works well, even when I tested it in broad daylight.
Using 2 fully charged 1100 mah rechargeable AAA batteries, I'm able to get at least 100 shots @ 1/8 power with pretty quick refresh rates.
The size, even when in it's carrying pouch, makes the unit very portable and easy to pack.

Cons:
The minimum 1/64 flash output is just too powerful for portraits that I take. I'm probably going to get a Canon cord to use off-camera TTL.


I find that that this flash can be a very convenient alternative to an average speedlight, but you kind of have to be creative in using it.


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Sep 06, 2016 20:53 as a reply to  @ p00kienrayray's post |  #7

Glad to see your report and success!

You can diffuse it at 1/64th by shooting through something translucent (cloth, plastic, tissue paper...). You can also bounce it. Either one will decrease the light.


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Sep 06, 2016 22:38 as a reply to  @ F2Bthere's post |  #8

Yea, I bounce it indoors. I've used a sheet of paper to diffuse, but it's kind of pesky resorting to that method.


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Sep 06, 2016 23:27 |  #9

p00kienrayray wrote in post #18119578 (external link)
Yea, I bounce it indoors. I've used a sheet of paper to diffuse, but it's kind of pesky resorting to that method.

Makes sense.

I do exactly what you are planning: off camera with a Canon cord using TTL.

I tend to use manual as soon as the flash is on a stand (or held by someone else), but frequently use TTL if it is on camera or being held in my hand, because that implies a more dynamic situation with changing distances and lighting conditions and I have found Fuji TTL to work well.


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Sep 10, 2016 22:01 |  #10

I also use a Canon TTL cord with the EF-X20 with good results, I just hold the flash with my left hand and the camera with the right. I mainly use it for fill or "correction" in daylight condition, so power generally isn't an issue, but I have used the "wide" setting to diffuse the flash a bit more to lower the power that hits the target. I have even stuffed it into a StoFen diffuser for my big speedlight and used it that way ... ;-)a

For tiny flash triggers, I'd look at the FlashQ system: http://flashq.myshopif​y.com (external link)




  
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Sep 12, 2016 14:46 |  #11

Took it on a trip this past weeken and mounted it on my X70. Really enjoying the TTL, even though I'm limited with it being on-camera. Used as fill flash and with subject back-lit by the sun, this flash works very well. Very impressed. Also still haven't noticed the heavy battery consumption that everyone complains about.

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Jun 17, 2017 10:58 |  #12

This is a very nice, portable unit for day time fill flash situations. A bit anemic for indoors, night time shoots (even close ups)- at the cost of auto TTL I am manually cranking up intensity and also EV on the camera to compensate. On the whole loving the off camera, wireless freedom for very useful lighting angles.




  
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