1DsIII to which new 5D?

Lately i am trying to re-arrange my gear and get rid of many that i don't use but ofcourse i will upgrade so i can use something as mean or backup, and i waited long and maybe i am still waiting, so until the time i can decide as usual i would like to know opinions here.

So one of the cameras i gonna sacrifice or let it go is 1Ds mkIII, it was my main landscapes/portraits or everything except sports/action-moving subjects area, until i bought Sony A7r, but i still want to stay with Canon as main bodies too, and if i save money and sell this mkiii then i may afford something, but there is no full frame camera that is appealing than 5D series for this kind of shots, 1DX series is for sports and wildlife nd such.

So, if later i can sell this mkIII and save some money to add, which 5D version is a suitable one to go with, 5DsR or 5D4? i am waiting as you for 5D4 reviews, but is it a good upgrade beside 5Ds/R? both are new with higher mp which is what i look for, but i don't know what is that 5D4 has more to be chosen over that 50mp 5Ds ones, and high ISO isn't an issue for me at all, what will you choose?

Looks like you have removed your gear list but if you go for the 5dsr you could sell your hasselblad too to fund it.

bildeb0rg wrote in post #18115462
Looks like you have removed your gear list but if you go for the 5dsr you could sell your hasselblad too to fund it.

Hasselblad is un-touched, but i will let some of Canon gear i have to go.

I didn't remove my gear list, it is in my sign.

I would pit the 5D3 against the 1DSIII personally, and save some cash. However if you are looking for more resolution, this won't help you. Many comparisons have been made against these 2 cameras and the 5D3 has proven to be a worthy replacement.

If you want more resolution, but also want more DR, the 5D4 is a good option. If you just want pure resolution and are okay with the DR you already have with the 1DS3, the 5DS would be a good option.

The 5D4 has many other features going for it though over the 5Ds/r. You might want to read the reviews of that camera to see which features/functions you would use most, then compare to the 5Ds/r.

I just want to upgrade some of my gear, i don't want to keep many bodies while many models or generations are already out, i still have 5Dc and didn't upgrade it to mk2 or mk3, and 1DX i feel it is not a best upgrade to my 1Ds3, but it is a combination between 1Ds3 and 1D4, less mp but higher fps and better high ISO, but i use it only for sports and actions, while for landscapes or outdoor or indoor architecture i only use Sony A7r and no longer i don't use 1Ds3, the only option next to A7r from Canon is 5DsR or 5D4, 5D3 isn't that big jump for me, i always prefer higher mp and better DR.

Well, you might as well throw out the DR part of the equation. The 5Ds/r has such a small DR difference to the 5D3, that it really shouldn't be part of the equation. In fact as you move up the ISO range, the 5D3 is better than the 5Ds/r. The 5Ds/r has alot of similarities to the 7D, but produces more detail and contrast differentiation at the same pixel pitch.

So that leaves you really with the resolution difference (which is a much larger difference than the DR).

Just to post old topics and discussions on this:

http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/13552​80
http://www.techradar.c​om …-eos-5ds-1283846/review/5

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18130024
Well, you might as well throw out the DR part of the equation. The 5Ds/r has such a small DR difference to the 5D3, that it really shouldn't be part of the equation. In fact as you move up the ISO range, the 5D3 is better than the 5Ds/r. The 5Ds/r has alot of similarities to the 7D, but produces more detail and contrast differentiation at the same pixel pitch.

So that leaves you really with the resolution difference (which is a much larger difference than the DR).

Just to post old topics and discussions on this:

http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/13552​80
http://www.techradar.c​om …-eos-5ds-1283846/review/5

Thanks for the links!

Then i have to think about 5D4 if it will be a better DR, and i still thinking about A7rII, not looking for Nikon side, but i really not planning for 5D3 any time.

Also, my shooting for landscapes and architecture are putting me at low ISO all the time, i don't go above ISO800 anyway, and even if i will shoot at higher ISO it will be mostly not important shots and not always.

Tareq wrote in post #18130096
Thanks for the links!

Then i have to think about 5D4 if it will be a better DR, and i still thinking about A7rII, not looking for Nikon side, but i really not planning for 5D3 any time.

Also, my shooting for landscapes and architecture are putting me at low ISO all the time, i don't go above ISO800 anyway, and even if i will shoot at higher ISO it will be mostly not important shots and not always.

The 5D4 has much better DR. The 5D3 (and 5DS/R) seem to measure just around the 11.7 to 12 stop range for DR. So far, I believe the 5D4 has measured out at 13.6 and possibly more. Once some enterprising individuals really figure out the Dual Pixel raw functionality and data, I suspect at least another .5 or more will be pulled from that mode when you need the most DR you can muster out of the 5D4.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18130110
The 5D4 has much better DR. The 5D3 (and 5DS/R) seem to measure just around the 11.7 to 12 stop range for DR. So far, I believe the 5D4 has measured out at 13.6 and possibly more. Once some enterprising individuals really figure out the Dual Pixel raw functionality and data, I suspect at least another .5 or more will be pulled from that mode when you need the most DR you can muster out of the 5D4.

Ok, i still have long time and can wait and see how this 5D4 will perform in many hands, and i prefer the hands of very talented and pro as many just shot the same whether they use $200 camera or $20000 so i can't really trust their impressions, they will always feel happy with any new full frame camera they get and their nice photos will be just nice with any camera and not special with different cameras, but i do keep upgrade if i can or possible, why many keep upgrading when they can and i can't if i can, and don't tell me the camera or gear nothing, because this site and many are full with gear latest and some current models, so this statement is invalid in my head.

Tareq,

I suggest you ask yourself which of these reasons is most important to YOU, "Why upgrade?"

1. pixel resolution
   
2. DR
   
3. features/handling
   

Wilt wrote in post #18130844
Tareq,

I suggest you ask yourself which of these reasons is most important to YOU, "Why upgrade?"

1. pixel resolution
   
2. DR
   
3. features/handling
   

...that should help you to identify which characteristic is merely 'a tie' with what you have, or even a loss of feature.
For example, your 1DsIII has the spotmeter point that follows the AF point, and NONE of the 5D series has that!

Wilt,

Difficult to answer this, mostly i like more pixel so i have freedom to crop sometimes when needed for any reason, so i don't lose more pixel after cropping.
Also DR is sometimes very handy, when i edit Sony A7r photos i feel like i have full control or i don't need extreme editing, while with Canon photos i feel like i need to go little more extreme either with shadows or highlight recovery and still it is not so much realistic after simple editing, so that i like Sony RAW images to edit always, is that due to DR or its 36mp? you can answer this.

Features? such as? spotmeter i feel i never used this, i don't know how much important this feature but i can't remember when did i use that spotmeter at anything i shoot. handling you mean the controls and the body design? this isn't a big deal, i love 1 series body and handling always, but i use Sony and i feel like i don't mind different designs or controls dials, and this will never change or affect my decision if needed.

For me, those 10 points are the main points i want in any camera:

1. High mp [pixel] and full frame
2. DR
3. Fast AF
4. fast fps and cropability if used for sports and wildlife/birds
5. battery longevity
6. body controls or body design
7. high ISO performance
8. Price
9. Weight
10. Brand [I am stick with Canon, then i added Sony, not thinking about Nikon or Fuji or Olympus as change or convert]

So if i have high mp full frame with DR or crop body with fast AF then this is all what i need, other things are secondary for me