5D Mark IV or 5DS R to complement my 7D MK II Your thought appreciated

I sold my 5D MK II and 7D and bought a 7D MKII last year. I had some leftover money from that and I have been saving since then to add a newer full-frame. I didn't get 5D MK III because I heard rumors about 5DSR as well as 5D MK IV coming out. Now that both are out I am finally trying to decide which camera would be a better complement to my 7D MK II.

I mainly do landscapes as hobby, occasionally do product photos and portraits. I love taking photos of nature that is my No 1 use for my cameras.

I am debating between 5DSR and 5D MK IV. I can get a 5DSR for a good price because my friend is selling it. If I buy 5DSR I can keep my 7D MKII. If I go, however, for the 5D MK IV I will have to sell my 7D MKII to be able to afford it.

So my dilemma is, I am very curious to try out the 50MP, but I know 5D MK IV has newer technologies and probably is more well rounded player with better low-light sensitivity.

Would you do a 7D MK II & 5DSR combo or go for 5D MK IV? I would greatly appreciate your input!

Thanks a ton!

Not exactly the comparison you are looking for, but you may find some useful information in my recent thread:

https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18117452

zero_energy wrote in post #18119416
I mainly do landscapes as hobby, occasionally do product photos and portraits. I love taking photos of nature that is my No 1 use for my cameras.

I am debating between 5DSR and 5D MK IV. I can get a 5DSR for a good price because my friend is selling it. If I buy 5DSR I can keep my 7D MKII. If I go, however, for the 5D MK IV I will have to sell my 7D MKII to be able to afford it.

With the info you posted, particularly the price difference you must be getting for the used 5Ds vs. new 5D4 that will allow you to keep the 7D2,

5Dsr and 7D2 ALL THE WAY!!

With the exception of a little dynamic range, you will be getting the better sensor for landscapes, the far better sensor for studio work, and you will be keeping the action advantages of the 7D2 at the same time.

You will have a back up, and you will have a second body for those times you want to shoot wide and scenic and long and fast at the same time (I do this a lot, maybe you don't)

Your last question is what would we do. In my case I woudl not even have t think a second about having two bodies each better for separate specific tasks than the 5D4.

Totally agree with CyberDyneSystems. Having two bodies is great - less lens swapping. Having a both good wide angle and telephoto camera at the ready is a great advantage.

I agree too with Jake, based on the parameters given, the 5dsr sounds perfect.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18119480
With the info you posted, particularly the price difference you must be getting for the used 5Ds vs. new 5D4 that will allow you to keep the 7D2,

5Dsr and 7D2 ALL THE WAY!!

With the exception of a little dynamic range, you will be getting the better sensor for landscapes, the far better sensor for studio work, and you will be keeping the action advantages of the 7D2 at the same time.

You will have a back up, and you will have a second body for those times you want to shoot wide and scenic and long and fast at the same time (I do this a lot, maybe you don't)

Your last question is what would we do. In my case I woudl not even have t think a second about having two bodies each better for separate specific tasks than the 5D4.

Thank you! It makes sense and yes I always liked having 2 bodies too. Reading your input, I think 7D Mk ii and 5DS R complement each other really well too. I think I know what I want to do now. Thank you all for your insight.

I see that you are in Rhode Island! I lived in Cranston for the last 2 and a half years. Just moved to North Carolina 2 weeks ago... Hope to get some nice shots out here. Where in Rhode Island are you about?

Well thank you again.

zero_energy wrote in post #18119651
....Where in Rhode Island are you about?

Well thank you again.

Just down the Road in Warwick up the hill from Pawtuxet Village.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18119845
Just down the Road in Warwick up the hill from Pawtuxet Village.

OMG! I used to go there to Fellini Pizzeria all the time. Nice!
well thanks for your advice hope I will like the 5DSR!

I am sure you will like the 5DSR, but you probably won't like the increased need for storage, larger cards, and longer processing times.

I shoot with this setup: 5DSr & 7D2 and also mostly shoot landscapes.

Huge files for landscapes & speed when I need it!

JJD.Photography wrote in post #18120940
I shoot with this setup: 5DSr & 7D2 and also mostly shoot landscapes.

Huge files for landscapes & speed when I need it!

great! I can't wait I'll get it on Monday!
I will just consider dealing with large file a part of the whole experience of having the 50MP camera and enjoy it!

I love Big sensors for fine art and product photography. That's ware the 5DS-R shines. I also do bird photography and can see where the new technology, dual pixel AF and the higher FPS speed would help in the area of birds, airshows, and wildlife in general.

So I would trade the larger sensor for the quicker body in a heartbeat IF the 5D M IV didn't have that anti-aliasing filter!

Still in a quandary

Anthony

questech wrote in post #18122875
I love Big sensors for fine art and product photography. That's ware the 5DS-R shines. I also do bird photography and can see where the new technology, dual pixel AF and the higher FPS speed would help in the area of birds, airshows, and wildlife in general.

So I would trade the larger sensor for the quicker body in a heartbeat IF the 5D M IV didn't have that anti-aliasing filter!

Still in a quandary

Anthony

But if Canon are going to keep giving us those wonderful new MK II and III lenses, not to mention completely new models, with ever increasing levels of resolution then they NEED to include an AA filter. One of the biggest problems we have is with colour information, the Nyquist cutoff frequency for gray scale signals is marginal in the 5DS sensor when used with the latest lenses, and you must remember that for colour signals the cutoff limit is at least 25% lower. The 50/18 MP sensors have a cutoff frequency of 129 LP/mm for monochrome, and between 97 and 65 LP/mm for colour data, thanks to the configuration of the Bayer CFA. The latest Canon lenses, are quite capable of delivering 130 LP/mm to the sensor. With only 60% of the resolution of the 5DS, the new 5DIV is looking at a cutoff frequency of 78 LP/mm, and aliasing is going to be a serious issue in a lot of situations.

Remember that it is not possible to simply apply a filter to a file to digitally remove moire by caused by aliasing. Any moire correction has to be applied manually to every image. Additionally where you have removed low frequency artifacts from an image you have also removed any wanted signals at those same frequencies. When you look at most images you will realise that they actually have far more low frequency data than they do high, so having to apply a high pass filter of any sort to areas of an image is going to have consequences for information that we do want to keep. Not that we can see that information anymore, it and the aliasing signal will be indistinguishable.

Alan

It finally got here today! Can't wait to try it out!
Does anyone know any software to check the shutter count on 5DS R?
I have windows (no mac). I know my friend said he only charged the battery once and that's how little he used the camera so I think it's very low but would love to know for sure...

Pop a card in it and see what the image numbering says. If he only charged it once, I doubt he would have gone through the trouble of doing any renumbering, etc.