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Gregory Tarhee 45 Ski/Mountain Backpack for Hiking//Photography Use - A Review

 
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Sep 07, 2016 01:36 |  #1

I have been looking for a true hiking backpack for use as a photography pack for a while. Most photography backpacks in my experience are not really designed to carry a relatively heavy load for long periods of time. On the other hand, most hiking packs aren't designed with the photographer in mind. To that end, I decided to look for hiking packs that could be modified for photography use. To do this, the packs neeeded to have the following characteristics:

1. They needed to be true hiking packs, i.e. had the support systems to allow for carrying relatively heavy loads for long periods without discomfort
2. They needed to be rear loading to enable someone to put the pack on the ground, retrieve the photo gear and put the pack back on without getting one's back dirty
3. They needed to have adequate room above the photo gear to accommodate other daily gear - a ziploc back with a lunch and or snacks, and a jacket, rain shell, etc. for layering.

After a lot of reviews and searching on the web, I settled on the Gregory Tarhee 45, a ski/mountain pack. It seemed to fulfil all the 3 criteria listed above.

I'm not going to talk at length about the virtues of the pack for hiking/mountaineering/​skiing. These can be found on numerous reviews online by googling the name of the pack.. I will add a few here below, as well as a Youtube video of how the pack can be used for backcountry skiing and mountain trips.

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=v4rs9oRoVLI (external link)

https://thebigoutside.​com …ry-targhee-45l-snow-pack/ (external link)

http://www.backpackgea​rtest.org …%20Nancy%20Grif​fith/#LRPT (external link)

In particular, there is a review of the pack being used precisely for what I wanted it for - as a photography/hiking pack. Here it is:

http://www.highwaytour​collective.com …ist/photographe​rs-daypack (external link)


Well, on to my review.

I ordered the pack from campsaver.com. I paid $125 for it, which seemed reasonable when compared to "photo" packs for similar use.

http://www.campsaver.c​om/gregory-targhee (external link)

It is listed for $140 but you can find coupons floating online that will give you a bit of a discount. Just google for it.

I also ordered a photo gear insert from eBay. This one:

http://www.ebay.com/it​m/171752477625 (external link)

It cost me about $19.

The pack is great. It really is designed for backcountry ski trips as well as mountain rescue, etc. and it has all kinds of doodads, tieoff points, etc. for carrying skis, snowboards, snowshoes, poles, avalanche rescue gear like shovels, etc. etc. You can watch the video and read the dedicated reviews for all that stuff. I don't think I'll use half that stuff, but certainly snowshoes may come in handy for hiking in winter.

Here is a photo of the pack:

IMAGE: https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8408/28889944254_67c64d24a4_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/L1Uv​V9  (external link) IMG_20160904_173723 (external link) by Scrumhalf (external link), on Flickr

The entire back of the pack (in black in the photo) opens up as a panel with a zipper giving full access to the storage area:

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Here is the insert:

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/LNvK​m5  (external link) IMG_20160904_173834 (external link) by Scrumhalf (external link), on Flickr

The insert could accommodate a Rokinon 14/2.8, a 6D with a 24-70 II attached and a 70-200 F4 IS. That illustrates the rough size of the insert.

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The insert could be placed easily in the storage compartment with some room on either side, probably enough to stuff a flash in if needed, although I didn't try.

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/LNvK​9b  (external link) IMG_20160904_174125 (external link) by Scrumhalf (external link), on Flickr

There is a fair bit of room on top of the insert in the main compartment, seen in photo below. I managed to stuff a fleece jacket, a water bottle and a ziploc back with a few granola bars in it. There are also external pockets to accommodate more stuff if needed.

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/LNvL​wm  (external link) IMG_20160904_173816 (external link) by Scrumhalf (external link), on Flickr

Since this is a ski pack, there are all kinds of strap and hooks to attach skis to the pack, and I used one of them to hang a tripod. It worked reasonably well. I didn't cinch things down enough and I am sure it would be fine and secure.

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/L1V7​th  (external link) IMG_20160904_174459 (external link) by Scrumhalf (external link), on Flickr

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/L29W​cB  (external link) IMG_20160904_174449 (external link) by Scrumhalf (external link), on Flickr

So, how did the pack perform?

I used the pack loaded pretty much as I described it (minus the tripod) on 2 days of hiking in Mt. Rainier NP. I spent 1 day doing the 6 mile Paradise Rim trail, and the 2nd day doing a 4 mile hike at Sunrise. The pack performed flawlessly and was as comfortable as any pack designed for hiking. The pack distributed the weight well on my hips and did not feel a burden to carry.

Being a ski pack, it has room for a bladder for drinking water but no side pouches for bottles (since they would freeze in the cold). I don't drink from a bladder, so I may need to come up with some kind of tie-off/cinch scheme to attach a bottle to the pack, but I view that as a minor inconvenience that can be worked around.

All i all, I am very happy with the pack and I think any backcountry photographer might want to go check one out at a hiking/skiiing store to decide for him/herself.

Thanks for reading and I hope this was useful!

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Sep 12, 2016 20:50 |  #2

kinda looks like the tripod is going to sag alot, was this a problem?


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Sep 12, 2016 21:02 |  #3

I hadn't cinched the straps tight in the photo, so I think it will be fine. However, this isn't a camera backpack. It is a ski/mountain pack being used for. Camera gear, so the straps were really meant for lashing down skis or ice picks, so it is not going to be perfect.


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Sep 13, 2016 10:32 |  #4

Scrumhalf wrote in post #18126076 (external link)
I hadn't cinched the straps tight in the photo...

Yea I realized that, and I understand Gregory doesn't make photo packs, never would want a photo pack. I've just always found unless the bottom of a tripod leg can get stuffed in a pocket or mess pocket they seem to sag and loosen over time on the trail so the pack doesn't ride right. Again my comment was more of a question as I'll be looking for a new pack soon. My other question is how much other stuff can you pack in it? Multiple water bottles, lunch, heavy jacket, rain gear, etc...?


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Sep 13, 2016 10:48 |  #5

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Yea I realized that, and I understand Gregory doesn't make photo packs, never would want a photo pack. I've just always found unless the bottom of a tripod leg can get stuffed in a pocket or mess pocket they seem to sag and loosen over time on the trail so the pack doesn't ride right. Again my comment was more of a question as I'll be looking for a new pack soon. My other question is how much other stuff can you pack in it? Multiple water bottles, lunch, heavy jacket, rain gear, etc...?

Good point. I plan to get a molle pocket and attach it to see if I can rest the tripod feet in it to give it a bit more support. There was plenty of space for me to stuff a fleece jacket, a water bottle and a ziploc with some granola bars above the ICU. I also plan to add an external water bottle pouch. I think the setup is fine for a day hike. I don't think I would do a backpacking trip in it, as the pack isn't really set up to carry sleeping pads, bags, tents, etc.


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Sep 19, 2016 18:08 |  #6

I've been looking for a good solution to the hiking backpack/camera problem, as did you (read in your other thread). I've been using Clik Elite and had both the Voyager 35 and more recently the Contrejour 40. Now looking to replace the Contrejour as it's begun to fatigue.

This seems like a good option on the pack, but I don't like the extra steps to fishing out your photo gear, especially if the pack was full of clothes and other. Did you consider an Fstop ICU or similar? The ICU you chose seems cumbersome, but maybe not since the pack has that pocket on the bottom. I've got a few more lenses than you and don't think that ICU is gong to cut it.

Glad it's worked out for you. I'll definitely keep this pack in mind as I move forward.


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Mar 26, 2017 15:25 |  #7

Sorry to revive an old thread..

Did you ever find any bags that had rear panel access that were not snowsports bags? Alternatively, how does this bag fare in warmer weather hiking? I'd imagine the back panel doesn't breathe very well.

The only rear panel bags I've found are this one and the Osprey Kamber, both of which are also snowsports bags.


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May 18, 2017 02:28 as a reply to  @ J-Blake's post |  #8

Ok, the thread is revived so I'll give it a go ;-)a

You seem to be one of the few who has used a Clik Elite Contrejour. I have a Contrejour for more than seven years and I'm also looking for newer options.

However, after trying out and buying several dedicated hiking backpacks I keep coming back to my Contrejour. My best shot until now is a Deuter Guide with a Mindshift Multi Mount Holster and Beta Shell lens cases.

When we're talking about serious hiking, you really need rugged inserts, with strong walls to protect your gear. Not only from impact but also from the personal things in the backpack. When hiking in nature things can get rough. All those weak inserts don't protect the gear, they sag. I've worked with the famous F-Stop ICUs and gave up on them. The Tenba BYOB bags are a bit better but not strong enough.

So, in the end nothing beats the concept of the Contrejour. It has some drawbacks though. Your personal things are stored at the front, they are not close to your body making them feel much more heavy. And you can't adjust the suspension system that much.

However, your gear is totally safe and glued to your back. And as a plus, I can easily ride my mountain bike with it, for over 65 miles.

The best part, it gives you fast access while hiking making it ideal for wildlife and bird photographers.




  
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