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Jan 16, 2020 16:43 |  #7846

Okay, upon playing around a bit, I figured out that, by changing the "Bracketing sequence" to "0,-.+" I was able to (at least) stop the SS from the set 1/2000sec to 1/8000sec. The reason why it changed the SS automatically earlier was because I had the Bracketing sequence set at "-,0,+." This makes a perfect sense. Since the SS of 1/2000sec is set for the "0," the camera has to shoot at higher SS to achieve the underexposure value ("-") by shooting at higher SS and ("+") by shooting at lower SS.

Feeling stupid that, after all these years shooting AEB, I never bothered to notice that the SS set is only for the "0" value and that, in order to achieve under and over exposures, the camera then has to shoot at different SS. All this time, I just assumed that the camera shoots at the same SS assigned for all three shots (for 3 bracketing) and that it achieves over and under exposure values by some other means. I hope someone confirms that my understanding is now correct.

Still, it doesn't explain why then the AEB shooting mode that I assigned to "C3" button gets erased automatically whenever I change the lens, while the "C1" and "C2" programmings aren't erased? Obviously, I don't want to have to set the "C" programming every time I change the lens. That hasn't happened before, and I don't remember touching any part of the menu.



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Jan 16, 2020 18:27 as a reply to  @ SYS's post |  #7847

When you set C3, by any chance, is your f-stop low? Lower than the lowest possible f-stop of the next lens? That would stop it from working, I think...

I seem to remember being upset with one of my C#s not working right after putting an extender on the lens I normally used with that mode.

... just brainstorming.


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Jan 17, 2020 14:02 |  #7848

SYS wrote in post #18993130 (external link)
Okay, upon playing around a bit, I figured out that, by changing the "Bracketing sequence" to "0,-.+" I was able to (at least) stop the SS from the set 1/2000sec to 1/8000sec. The reason why it changed the SS automatically earlier was because I had the Bracketing sequence set at "-,0,+." This makes a perfect sense. Since the SS of 1/2000sec is set for the "0," the camera has to shoot at higher SS to achieve the underexposure value ("-") by shooting at higher SS and ("+") by shooting at lower SS.

Feeling stupid that, after all these years shooting AEB, I never bothered to notice that the SS set is only for the "0" value and that, in order to achieve under and over exposures, the camera then has to shoot at different SS. All this time, I just assumed that the camera shoots at the same SS assigned for all three shots (for 3 bracketing) and that it achieves over and under exposure values by some other means. I hope someone confirms that my understanding is now correct.

Still, it doesn't explain why then the AEB shooting mode that I assigned to "C3" button gets erased automatically whenever I change the lens, while the "C1" and "C2" programmings aren't erased? Obviously, I don't want to have to set the "C" programming every time I change the lens. That hasn't happened before, and I don't remember touching any part of the menu.

So how many stops do you set for the bracketing? I use the default sequence 0, -, + and select the bracketing value using the Q button. However, I usually use 2/3 stop or 1 stop at the most. You must have set yours to 2 stops (or greater) for the SS to jump to 1/8000. That seems an awful lot. I do think it's wise to have the 0 first for your base exposure - then you know what SS you are dealing with on either side. My 5D4 is busy (doing astro) so I tested the 6D at 1/2500 sec with + and - 1 stop. It took the + image at 1/4000 (which is the max SS on the 6D) without complaining.


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Jan 17, 2020 14:52 |  #7849

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So how many stops do you set for the bracketing? I use the default sequence 0, -, + and select the bracketing value using the Q button. However, I usually use 2/3 stop or 1 stop at the most. You must have set yours to 2 stops (or greater) for the SS to jump to 1/8000. That seems an awful lot. I do think it's wise to have the 0 first for your base exposure - then you know what SS you are dealing with on either side. My 5D4 is busy (doing astro) so I tested the 6D at 1/2500 sec with + and - 1 stop. It took the + image at 1/4000 (which is the max SS on the 6D) without complaining.

Yes, I did adjust the stops so that the SS wouldn't jump to as high as 1/8000. I think it now jumps to 1/4000 at fast end and 1/500 at slow end, I believe. I still don't know why, however, that particular "C" with the AEB programming gets erased randomly. Today, it's working fine, though.



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Jan 19, 2020 23:47 |  #7851

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Jan 19, 2020 23:56 |  #7852

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Jan 20, 2020 01:49 |  #7853

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Jan 20, 2020 13:19 |  #7854

Those museum shots are amazing. Love the quality of the lighting!


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Jan 21, 2020 10:23 |  #7856

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Jan 21, 2020 10:48 |  #7858

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Jan 21, 2020 13:38 |  #7859

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Love this series


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Really beautiful shot!


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Jan 22, 2020 03:16 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #7860

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