Canon M5

looks interesting

That might be the first canon mirrorless I would be interested in... It would replace my SL1 I suspect.

Nope! I had such I high hopes and have been putting off upgrading lenses all summer, but with no 4k it basically means this camera has absolutely zero ability to shoot any B-roll stock.

Call me skeptical but with the number of quality camera companies, smartphones taking away a lot of casual users and having multiple sensor sizes there has to be a breaking point in the near future as to what camera companies can afford to offer in multiple lens mounts. I see this as a camera system that is already obsolete with no assurance of future longevity. M5 or 110 film?

archfotos wrote in post #18128936
Nope! I had such I high hopes and have been putting off upgrading lenses all summer, but with no 4k it basically means this camera has absolutely zero ability to shoot any B-roll stock.

Call me skeptical but with the number of quality camera companies, smartphones taking away a lot of casual users and having multiple sensor sizes there has to be a breaking point in the near future as to what camera companies can afford to offer in multiple lens mounts. I see this as a camera system that is already obsolete with no assurance of future longevity. M5 or 110 film?

You would think so, but the smartphone has been around now for 5+ years, and yet this still moves forward. In fact the opposite may be true. Smartphone users may decide they want to be more serious about photography, and therefore buy a camera system. I know several personally that have done this.

I could care less that the camera doesn't shoot 4K. I have no way to watch, process, or store 4K anyways. I can just buy an EF/EFS adapter and use my current glass too.

I just hope this will lead to a FF Canon mirrorless offering in the next couple of years.

I love my Canon glass but ever since I started shooting with mirrorless bodies I find it hard to go back to an SLR.

dalto wrote in post #18129141
I just hope this will lead to a FF Canon mirrorless offering in the next couple of years.

I love my Canon glass but ever since I started shooting with mirrorless bodies I find it hard to go back to an SLR.

http://petapixel.com …s-model-photokina-report/

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18129150
http://petapixel.com …s-model-photokina-report/

"According to a new report by Canon Rumors, two EOS M models are in the works for the end of 2016 (possibly a Photokina release): a minor update to the EOS M3, and a 24MP full-frame model aimed at prosumers."

I think instead they merged the two ideas and gave us the M5.

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #18129162
"According to a new report by Canon Rumors, two EOS M models are in the works for the end of 2016 (possibly a Photokina release): a minor update to the EOS M3, and a 24MP full-frame model aimed at prosumers."

I think instead they merged the two ideas and gave us the M5.

perhaps, but I don't think so... there is enough in the rumor mill to point toward a Canon ff mirrorless. Let's just say, if they do announce one this year, it won't take me by surprise.

http://petapixel.com …-frame-mirrorless-camera/

archfotos wrote in post #18128936
Nope! I had such I high hopes and have been putting off upgrading lenses all summer, but with no 4k it basically means this camera has absolutely zero ability to shoot any B-roll stock.

Call me skeptical but with the number of quality camera companies, smartphones taking away a lot of casual users and having multiple sensor sizes there has to be a breaking point in the near future as to what camera companies can afford to offer in multiple lens mounts. I see this as a camera system that is already obsolete with no assurance of future longevity. M5 or 110 film?

I don't know about that... I'm not so sure about phones taking much (if any) market away from enthusiast cameras like mid-range DSLR's and MILC cameras.

Also, the EOS M's biggest advantage is how well it can adapt EF and EF-S lenses with their own relatively cheap adapter. Even my generation 1 EOS M did fairly well (about the same speed as a native lens) with adapted EF lenses.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18128956
You would think so, but the smartphone has been around now for 5+ years, and yet this still moves forward. In fact the opposite may be true. Smartphone users may decide they want to be more serious about photography, and therefore buy a camera system. I know several personally that have done this.

I could care less that the camera doesn't shoot 4K. I have no way to watch, process, or store 4K anyways. I can just buy an EF/EFS adapter and use my current glass too.

I agree, I've had several friends ask me about camera recommendations because they had gotten into taking photos by playing with the camera on their phone.

I disagree about the 4K though... it has loads of advantages, even if you're only displaying it in 1080P ultimately, it's becoming the standard and Canon needs to catch up, they have no reason not to.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18128956
You would think so, but the smartphone has been around now for 5+ years, and yet this still moves forward. In fact the opposite may be true. Smartphone users may decide they want to be more serious about photography, and therefore buy a camera system. I know several personally that have done this.

I live in a very heavy traveled area visited by tourists, vacationers, and students from across the country visiting on field trips all of whom are carrying cameras. There is no doubt in my mind that the number of DSLRs or even cameras being carried my visitors have dropped significantly in the past three years.

I understand that many people may not be interested in 4K or even video, but the point is without a big enough fan base having another mount and lens system can limit the long term sustainability of a system. I am using some full frame lenses today that I invested in back in the 80s. The thought of investing in Lenses that only cover APS in a questionable mount system just doesn't seem like a smart decision.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18129173
perhaps, but I don't think so... there is enough in the rumor mill to point toward a Canon ff mirrorless. Let's just say, if they do announce one this year, it won't take me by surprise.

http://petapixel.com …-frame-mirrorless-camera/

I highly doubt there will be a FF mirrorless from Canon. Considering this one just came out, Canon is still playing it safe in terms of the mirrorless market.