New Canon EOS M5 Mirrorless

thc1979 wrote in post #18197920
I've said it before, I don't think the M5 is the ideal camera for those looking for a compact full standalone system. It is only going to benefit those invested in Canon. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the current lenses, yes they are a bit slow but hopefully that will improve over time - it's not a deal-breaker for me. I wouldn't buy an M5/EF-M setup as my main camera system, but I am looking forward to receiving mine in about 1hr 24mins! I think it's going to be a great companion to the 1DX2, far better than the M3 was. If it's clear tonight I might stick my EF300 on it with a x2 TC and see how it gets on with the moon (one of the standard new-camera tests along with the fireplace, back garden etc!!) ....

well the thing is that a complimentary system already existed in the sony a6300 and soon the a6500 (as well as the a7ii, a7rii, a7sii), which gives canon lenses IBIS and 4K video.

Just picked up an M5 two days ago (currently traveling in Japan and picked one up tax-free with the 15-45mm kit lens). Haven't spent much time with photography in the past several years, but until I picked up this, I've used a 20D + BG-E2N battery grip with the 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 as a walk-around and a reversed EF-S 18-55mm for macro shots. I caught wind of the M5 back in September, and was very interested. An SLR was too much to carry around, IMO, but I didn't want to sacrifice lens options or user-interface. By that I mean that shooting without at least two dedicated control dials is an absolute deal-breaker for me.

Granted the 20D (the body I'm coming from) is old and very out-of-date, I'm very satisfied so far. I will miss the comfort of a full-sized SLR with a battery-grip, but I can get used to the M5 for sure. The extra control dials are very nice, though I suppose that some of the newer pro-sumer/pro offerings aren't any different. It's nice having a dial I can dedicate to ISO (unlike the 20D). The on-sensor phase-detect AF is quite good, and the touch-and-drag feature works excellently. The EVF is alright (I haven't used an EVF before and it doesn't compare to an optical viewfinder, but I can get used to it). As with any SLR I get my hands on, I've changed the shutter half-press to enable AE, and set the rear "*" button to AF-activate. I disabled continuous AF on the M5, since I think it's very annoying. I haven't taken very many shots, and haven't processed any RAW images on a computer, but I'm satisfied with the previews on the camera so far

The only gripe I have is the abysmal battery life... I think the main problem is that I'm used to an SLR, which you can leave in the "on" position with no problem (since it will automatically turn off until you half-press the shutter). The M5 is the same in that it will go to sleep when idle (I don't use the built-in ECO mode and instead opt to use a 15sec display off timer, and a 30sec sleep timer). The problem, however, is that the idle timer is broken by changes to the focus ring of the kit lens, switching between the EVF and the LCD, entering image review mode, etc. The first day, not realizing this, I left the camera on and it died on me before the end of the day (without taking more than 5 pictures!), I presume because as I was carrying it, the EVF/LCD sensor would change states, or the focus ring would be inadvertently shifted. Once the camera's in sleep mode, however, the only two things that turn it back on are a half-press of the shutter, or a press of the image review button. It would be nice to be able to press the M.Fn button (or any of the other assignable buttons) to instantly put the camera to sleep. At this point, I haven't figured out a better way to mitigate this problem, but for now I turned off auto-switching between the EVF/LCD (which eliminates the problem of breaking the idle timer by triggering the EVF sensor) and try not to bump the focus ring. Once I start using my EF lenses (which are at home), I don't think this will be a problem for me, but it's still a potential issue for any other STM EF-M lens (which I don't really plan on purchasing, so whatever). For the moment, I'm just trying to turn the camera off when I'm not using it. It boots quickly, so it hasn't been a problem, but I hope a future firmware update allows me to set a button to enter sleep mode directly, or perhaps setting the camera to only allow a half-press of the shutter break the idle timer.

I haven't tried the on-body flash (and probably won't really ever use it...), and haven't really played with any of the new-to-me features (videos, Wi-Fi/smartphone remote controls), but I don't expect to be using them very much anyhow (except for maybe 60fps 1080p videos).

Here's a sample cat picture from the M5 with the kit-lens that I took today. It was shot RAW, but since evidently the newest version of Lightroom (which I just bought and downloaded) doesn't support the M5 just yet (I assume, since it fails to preview any of them), I used the camera's built-in RAW processor to generate the JPG.

I'm jealous! Just called my vendor (part of a group purchase), and they haven't got word of a shipping date: before Christmas, is what they said...unless you're getting the 18-150 kit, in which case the answer is "January".

Oh well, the "good, cheap, fast" rule applies: pick any 2 of the 3.

Eat that dog owners

Finally arrived from Jessops around 4pm. Just over a two month wait. First impressions are good....

SolidxSnake wrote in post #18197980
Here's a sample cat picture from the M5 with the kit-lens that I took today. It was shot RAW, but since evidently the newest version of Lightroom (which I just bought and downloaded) doesn't support the M5 just yet (I assume, since it fails to preview any of them), I used the camera's built-in RAW processor to generate the JPG.

Hosted photo: posted by SolidxSnake in
./showthread.php?p=181​97980&i=i260999999
forum: Canon Digital Cameras

Beautiful cat, Colourpoint ? ? ? Great to see pics from the M5

thc1979 wrote in post #18198292
Finally arrived from Jessops around 4pm. Just over a two month wait. First impressions are good....

Hosted photo: posted by thc1979 in
./showthread.php?p=181​98292&i=i1321478
forum: Canon Digital Cameras

Wow looks completely different from that angle, get that battery charged and get posting

Here's one with a raw processed in-camera (never done that before on anything) and wi-fi'd to phone

ISO 6400, 1/60, f/8 handheld. Seems to have resized for some reason though. I've put a full resolution JPEG in a Dropbox folder, https://www.dropbox.co​m …v0AxTei2SXVVF44​rS6ua?dl=0

thc1979 wrote in post #18198311
Here's one with a raw processed in-camera (never done that before on anything) and wi-fi'd to phone

ISO 6400, 1/60, f/8 handheld. Seems to have resized for some reason though

Before anyone mentions it, I have no idea why POTN thinks it's ISO200!

Looks nice and clean for ISO 6400

I've put a link for the full resolution file

Exciting! I would like to get my hands on one and really try out the AF.
The bluetooth is an awesome feature too!

Maybe I can finally replace my SL1 travel setup! The only thing my SL1 is lacking (for my uses) is wifi and/or bluetooth

BlakeC wrote in post #18198338
Exciting! I would like to get my hands on one and really try out the AF.
The bluetooth is an awesome feature too!

Maybe I can finally replace my SL1 travel setup! The only thing my SL1 is lacking (for my uses) is wifi and/or bluetooth

If the af holds up, i'd be interested in it possibly replacing my 70d as my backup to my 80D

Wi-fi was really easy to setup and there's a one-touch button on the side, so easy. Just have to watch it's not transferring resized images!

I've only had it in the dark so haven't used the af for anything moving. Moving the focus point is very good, I've constrained it to a specific zone on the LCD.

thc1979 wrote in post #18198340
Wi-fi was really easy to setup and there's a one-touch button on the side, so easy. Just have to watch it's not transferring resized images!
Good to hear wifi is easy. It's kind of a pain for my 80D & 70D.


I've only had it in the dark so haven't used the af for anything moving. Moving the focus point is very good, I've constrained it to a specific zone on the LCD.

Edited my previous post. Wouldn't use it as a backup to my 80D over my 70D just for the fact that everything is interchangeable between the 70D & 80D. Still interested tho!

If they come out with an SL2 with bluetooth or wifi, I will be all over it. I use it for travel and it would be nice to be able to upload from our phones on the go.
The M5 looks pretty good so far tho.

h14nha wrote in post #18198293
Beautiful cat, Colourpoint ? ? ? Great to see pics from the M5

WB set to 4300K, with the "Standard" profile selected for the RAW processing. The shot was taken at a cat cafe in Akihabara