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Sep 15, 2016 12:40 |  #31

They really need an f2.8 walk around zoom...their three zoom lenses in that range are all slow, something like a 15-60f2.8...or at least give us a longer prime


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Sep 15, 2016 12:55 |  #32

DreDaze wrote in post #18129082 (external link)
They really need an f2.8 walk around zoom...their three zoom lenses in that range are all slow, something like a 15-60f2.8...or at least give us a longer prime

I don't see the need for 2 slow mid range variable aperture zooms. Even something like a 15-45 F4 would make more sense to me.

Fuji seems to have a much better lens lineup and I'm going to wait and see to decide which direction I go.


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Sep 15, 2016 13:00 |  #33

My walk around lightweight camera is the Canon SL1. But I like what I have read so far about the M5.

It has plenty of features that my SL1 is lacking (built-in IS, Wi-Fi, tilt LCD, DIGIC 7, Dual Pixel CMOS AF, Bluetooth and a host of others) but you still need an adaptor to use any Canon EF or Ef-S lenses and the size of the M5 body is only very, very slightly smaller than the SL1 and the M5 will weigh more than the SL1 once you add the adapter.

I suspect most users won't bother with the adaptor or the EF or EF-S lenses anyway on the M5.

Here's hoping the image quality of the M5 surpasses that of the SL1 when using the same lenses (or maybe the 18-150 on the M5 will best the 18-135 STM, for example, on the SL1 - I doubt it).




  
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Sep 15, 2016 13:12 |  #34

Hopefully the sensor is the new design with improved DR as well. IQ from the M5 should be better than the SL1, as the SL1 is 7D Mark I tech.


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Sep 15, 2016 13:30 |  #35

This certainly looks like an interesting camera. I currently have the M3 which is pretty good if you "work it" but I've never liked not having a viewfinder and found the optional evf a bit awkward to use sometimes, and focusing on anything moving is very hit and miss.

the lense range is a bit limited compared to others but in reality how many lenses do you really need for for the intended purpose of this camera.

I think this will be a popular camera but there is plenty of people complaining about it already. They are the people that probably need to look at the 80D.

I was considering the 5D4 to go with my 1DX2 but I think this might fit the bill for holidays etc. Anyway who am I kidding I'll end up getting both!




  
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Sep 15, 2016 14:10 |  #36

So are they saying you don't put your eye up to the view finder?

That seems so awkward!




  
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Sep 15, 2016 14:17 |  #37

Any idea how many stops, if any are lost on the ef adapter?


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Sep 15, 2016 14:44 as a reply to  @ EightEleven's post |  #38

should be zero. It's just air between the lens and the sensor. Only the electronics are pass thru.




  
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Sep 15, 2016 14:54 |  #39

DreDaze wrote in post #18129039 (external link)
Do those two share that many similarities?

The 7D2 will AF far, far better - especially in Servo; that's the advantage of Phase Detect AF over even the best live (contrast detect) AF. PDAF requires a mirror and a separate AF sensor, which is why it is able to focus so quickly. The 7D2 also has three internal processors to handle rapid image capture and also the AF / metering; it's designed for sports or agile event photography.

If you need any of the features that specifically point to a 7D2, the M5 won't get the job done. That said, it will probably have excellent image quality and the advantage of being able to adapt many manual-focus lenses as well as the full Canon EF line. I would definitely consider it as an addition to my lineup, but not a replacement for any of my SLRs.


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Sep 15, 2016 14:55 as a reply to  @ EightEleven's post |  #40

None as there is no light lost with the adaptor. You only lose light with additional lenses like in an extender




  
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Sep 15, 2016 15:04 |  #41

EightEleven wrote in post #18129171 (external link)
Any idea how many stops, if any are lost on the ef adapter?

Since the primary attraction of the mirrorless bodies is their size and weight, I think having the EF/EF-S adapter is nice in a pinch but I would think most people would stick with the native EF-M lenses which are smaller and lighter. Same logic applies to using EF-S lenses on my SL1.

As Canon and others develop more and more of such EF-M lenses (and hopefully a fast zoom - well, at least an f/2.8 zoom as noted above), this M5 is likely to be a game changer. It's all good. Now, let's see what the reviews and the charts say.




  
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Sep 15, 2016 15:05 |  #42

Looks great!
When the price bottoms out @ $400.00 in a year I'll likely grab one ;)


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Sep 15, 2016 16:21 |  #43

Some of the mirrorless cameras are sporting 4K video. What's up Canon?




  
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Sep 15, 2016 19:52 as a reply to  @ i-G12's post |  #44

probably because they don't have a consumer grade 4k codec. The 5Dmk4 encodes on mjpeg which takes huge amounts of memory. Some can live with 1080p/60fps; some can't ---> move on.




  
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Sep 15, 2016 21:54 |  #45

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18129108 (external link)
Hopefully the sensor is the new design with improved DR as well. IQ from the M5 should be better than the SL1, as the SL1 is 7D Mark I tech.

I think it's supposed to have the 80D sensor.


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