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Micro fiber lens cleaning cloths - are they all about the same?

 
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Sep 19, 2016 11:28 |  #1

There are many brands of micro fiber cleaning cloths on the market.
I'm guessing that like other things, some cloths are better quality than others.

I really don't use them that often for lens cleaning, but since I have expensive glass
I want to make sure I get a good quality rag.

Any recommendations? Thanks.


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Sep 22, 2016 11:34 |  #2

Gee, I feel alone here, so very alone. :-(


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Sep 22, 2016 11:58 |  #3

The original Microfiber which was written about in Modern Photography decades ago, which was available at the time in Japan, but not USA, is a 'hard finish' cloth and not the very soft finish microfiber that you see in auto supply stores in the rags section. These are the Photo-Clear brand, which apparently now has Schneider as its parent company.

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Sep 22, 2016 20:53 |  #4

None I have used would ever damage the lens coating, but they can be quite different in terms of how they 'work'. I have some textured that are really good for fingerprints and others that are better for dust and leave less fibers on the lens.

I would try a few if you are particular, or just don't get the cheapest of the cheap is you are not.


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Sep 22, 2016 21:25 |  #5

Use cloths once, & you're good. Use it a 2nd time & it had magically been transformed into an abrasive substance by the crud it picked up in the first cleaning.
Instead, think about Lens cleaning tissue (external link)


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Sep 22, 2016 22:16 |  #6

PhotosGuy wrote in post #18137282 (external link)
Use cloths once, & you're good. Use it a 2nd time & it had magically been transformed into an abrasive substance by the crud it picked up in the first cleaning.
Instead, think about Lens cleaning tissue[/URL]


The microfiber cloths launder just fine. Like using Kodak Tissues, you turn to a clean surface a lot, so that any captured grit does not become abrasive against the lens/coating.

In testing decades ago, Modern Photography's Herbert Keppler used microscopes to examine lens coatings after wiping, and microfiber was far less abrasive than even Kodak Lens Cleaning Tissue which left microabrasions (not visible to naked eye).

Furthermore, lens coatings are far harder today than they were decades ago, when the Modern Photography tests were performed.


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Sep 22, 2016 22:49 |  #7

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Perfectly Frank wrote in post #18133062 (external link)
Any recommendations?

Yup. The dollar store. You get a 4 pack or a 5 pack for a buck. They're as good as any "dedicated" lens cleaning microfiber. Even better, actually, as they have a decently long nap, which helps a lot with picking the dust off of the lens surface. The specialized lens cleaning microfiber cloths have an extremely short, almost nonexistent nap, which makes it really hard to get the dust to stick to them.

These dollar store microfibers are all I ever use, and I am using them on lenses that cost me several thousand dollars, like my 400mm f2.8. I really believe they are the best.

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Sep 23, 2016 00:25 |  #8

Wilt wrote in post #18137313 (external link)
The microfiber cloths launder just fine. Like using Kodak Tissues, you turn to a clean surface a lot, so that any captured grit does not become abrasive against the lens/coating.

OK, I stand corrected. But just for the H of it, maybe we should have a poll sometime on how many times people use the cloths before they wash them. ; )


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Sep 23, 2016 03:39 |  #9

I've been buying (relatively) expensive lenses since 1976. I've always cleaned them with a lens brush, and breath moisture/t-shirt. I still have yet to damage a lens. Paper towels and vinegar water work well if things get overly dirty.


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Sep 23, 2016 04:27 as a reply to  @ Bassat's post |  #10

I was right with you up until paper towels and vinegar.


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Sep 23, 2016 08:09 |  #11

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Paper towels and vinegar water work well if things get overly dirty.

How do you get the paper towels not to leave behind tiny little fibers of themselves? I mean, when you clean windows or windshields with paper towels, they always shed tiny little bits of lint that never seem to go away. How do you keep this from happening when you clean lenses?

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PhotosGuy wrote in post #18137370 (external link)
OK, I stand corrected. But just for the H of it, maybe we should have a poll sometime on how many times people use the cloths before they wash them. ; )


Excellent point, Frank! Certainly there will be a large percentage (i.e., not an 'insignificant' one) who fail in the maintenance of lots of stuff, and something as insignificant as a microfiber cloth will be one of the worst to suffer from lack of maintenance. In that same poll, it should also be alsked,

  • "If you own your home and your heat is provided by forced air, do you change/clean the filters in your furnace annually?"
  • "If your refrigerator has a water filtration filter, do you change/clean the filters in your refrigerator annually?"
  • "Do you inspect/clean the lint trap of your dryer before each use?"
  • "If you have lens cleaning tissue, is it specirically Kodak brand name photographic lens cleaning, and not a discount department store eyeglass cleaning paper.


...and I suspect there will be a strong correlation of responses to the various questions.
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Sep 23, 2016 10:19 |  #13

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18137450 (external link)
I was right with you up until paper towels and vinegar.

Tablespoon of vinegar in a qt of water. Excellent cleaner.


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Tom Reichner wrote in post #18137577 (external link)
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How do you get the paper towels not to leave behind tiny little fibers of themselves? I mean, when you clean windows or windshields with paper towels, they always shed tiny little bits of lint that never seem to go away. How do you keep this from happening when you clean lenses?

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Lens brush. Don't overcomplicate it. It's a piece of glass.


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Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18137450 (external link)
I was right with you up until paper towels and vinegar.

^
A paper towel is an absorbent towel made from paper instead of cloth. Consider the fact that Kimberley Clark, for example, are a PAPER products producer, and paper is wood pulp. A number of manufacturers of optical products care publications allude to the fact that cotton is fine to use, but wood pulp-based products are NOT fine to use on optics. These instructions from microscope and telescope optics manufacturers, that I have seen in past searches. Kimberly-Clark and wood pulp products are synonymous, so would you trust your lens coatings to their products?

As for Kimwipes to clean optics, that's a no-no even per the manufacturer of Kimwipes

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