Who will purchase the Sigma 85mm 1.4 Art and when?

Images look good but for me it's nothing worth selling my original Sigma 85mm over.

Alot of reviews said the AF is quick to snap and bokeh is very nice for an 85A. Im sure it will have reduced CA and improve weather sealing. I usually don't pre-order any lens, but this may be the first. I have never own a prime portrait lens before so I hope this give me a look different than my 70-200 II 2.8 I use for wedding and portraits.

Dlee13 wrote in post #18164185
Images look good but for me it's nothing worth selling my original Sigma 85mm over.

So the 50mm non art ---> 50mm art is about what to expect. Well... I think you'll gain more from 85mm non art to the art.

One of the bigger selling points will be the dock compatibility, a weather sealing gasket at the back, less vignetting, sharper at 1.4... much sharper into the corners and better bokeh. It's a worthy upgrade if you can manage the size/weight increase and cost.

Many say the 50mm art wasn't enough to push them over the edge to cash in their non art... but it's all based on what you find acceptable as well.

I'm sure if Canon released a 70-200 2.8 IS III and it priced at 2700 that many would say the same comments as you when talking about the version II.

level5photog wrote in post #18164090
Here you go

https://www.slrlounge.​com …as-new-85mm-art-ppe-2016/

Enjoy and have a great weekend!

That looks great! Oy! If all goes well, I should have mine this coming week. I intend to take this baby everywhere.

madhatter04 wrote in post #18164714
That looks great! Oy! If all goes well, I should have mine this coming week. I intend to take this baby everywhere.

You and me too

Talley wrote in post #18164549
So the 50mm non art ---> 50mm art is about what to expect. Well... I think you'll gain more from 85mm non art to the art.

One of the bigger selling points will be the dock compatibility, a weather sealing gasket at the back, less vignetting, sharper at 1.4... much sharper into the corners and better bokeh. It's a worthy upgrade if you can manage the size/weight increase and cost.

Many say the 50mm art wasn't enough to push them over the edge to cash in their non art... but it's all based on what you find acceptable as well.

I'm sure if Canon released a 70-200 2.8 IS III and it priced at 2700 that many would say the same comments as you when talking about the version II.

I think copy variation is the main issue. For some, they had less than acceptable sharpness wide open and inconsistent AF, so if they get a good copy of the Art then it will feel like a good upgrade. My copy is tack sharp wide open, AF has no issues at all and for a lens like this I don't use it for genres that require speed.

For some this is an amazing upgrade or the perfect 85mm lens for them to buy. Although for others, myself included, it's just a heavier version of my current lens with fasted AF.

Dlee13 wrote in post #18164878
I think copy variation is the main issue. For some, they had less than acceptable sharpness wide open and inconsistent AF, so if they get a good copy of the Art then it will feel like a good upgrade. My copy is tack sharp wide open, AF has no issues at all and for a lens like this I don't use it for genres that require speed.

For some this is an amazing upgrade or the perfect 85mm lens for them to buy. Although for others, myself included, it's just a heavier version of my current lens with fasted AF.

I had two copies both were amazing tack sharp wide open. Really good copies. I'm ready for better Sold mine months ago and my Art should be here this week woot! I actually bought two used copies, not even a new ones. Both were excellent copies. I know the ART will provide better.

Looking forward to your review Talley. Please provide portraits shot all taken at 1.4. Hopefully with enough positive reviews, I will order it too by the end did the week.

level5photog wrote in post #18164928
Looking forward to your review Talley. Please provide portraits shot all taken at 1.4. Hopefully with enough positive reviews, I will order it too by the end did the week.

I won't have access to the non art 85 for a bit and will be able to get ahold of the 85 1.2 II right after halloween... BUT... I'll be able to compare it to the 200 F2 IS

Got this of my daughter today. This lens is unbelievable and sets my gold standard so why not compare it to it? ZERO sharpening applied to this image. Mild adjustments to the black/white levels only otherwise SOOC and a WB correction.

Talley wrote in post #18164931
I won't have access to the non art 85 for a bit and will be able to get ahold of the 85 1.2 II right after halloween... BUT... I'll be able to compare it to the 200 F2 IS

Got this of my daughter today. This lens is unbelievable and sets my gold standard so why not compare it to it? ZERO sharpening applied to this image. Mild adjustments to the black/white levels only otherwise SOOC and a WB correction.

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200mm f2 and 85 1.2 is definitely gold standard. 200mm f2 is my dream lens but it's too $$$ for me and not very practical for 12 hrs + weddings.

Talley wrote in post #18164931
I won't have access to the non art 85 for a bit and will be able to get ahold of the 85 1.2 II right after halloween... BUT... I'll be able to compare it to the 200 F2 IS

Got this of my daughter today. This lens is unbelievable and sets my gold standard so why not compare it to it? ZERO sharpening applied to this image. Mild adjustments to the black/white levels only otherwise SOOC and a WB correction.

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I want to show this to my wife as an excuse to but the 200 f2.
I am pretty sure that it won't work after buying the Tamron 85 and 35 in the last couple weeks.

Some more sample images direct from Sigma... https://blog.sigmaphot​o.com …ficent-85mm-1-4-art-lens/

F11 studio shots and F2.8 outdoor???...

Sigma really really really sucks in the build the hype crap. Looks like it'll be up to us select few who actually pre-ordered the lens to post the true samples of what we are looking for... ALL F1.4 shots period.

I know... seriously show the point of the lens which is 1.4 and not some studio stuff. Any 85mm will look good at f8/f11

On a side note I ordered 2 35mm Sigma art from Amazon with serial numbers 2 digits from each other and they performed the exact same on my 5D3. I am guessing copy variation of any Sigma is dependent on manufacturing date/batch #

BlazingSkies wrote in post #18165354
I know... seriously show the point of the lens which is 1.4 and not some studio stuff. Any 85mm will look good at f8/f11

On a side note I ordered 2 35mm Sigma art from Amazon with serial numbers 2 digits from each other and they performed the exact same on my 5D3. I am guessing copy variation of any Sigma is dependent on manufacturing date/batch #

You wouldn't be able to detect the copy variation and would require the OLAF optical bench like what lensrentals has to determine actual MTF ratings. human eye cannot discern small differences like the MTF machines can.

Talley wrote in post #18165390
You wouldn't be able to detect the copy variation and would require the OLAF optical bench like what lensrentals has to determine actual MTF ratings. human eye cannot discern small differences like the MTF machines can.

I'm saying this from a real world perspective kind of test. Both lens didn't seem to require much micro adjustment and from pixel peeping I was able to nail the focus I wanted consistently for both lens; same behaviour for both lens within the same serial; I've shot with this lens for over 1.5 years and I know what a nailed focus shot looks like on the Sigma

I've tried various copies of Sigma 35mm before and some will work fine with DotTune AF (these require hard micro adjustment) and some don't require anything (they hit all DotTune points off the bat)