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POLL: "Who will Purchase the Sigma 85mm 1.4 Art"
Already Pre-Ordered
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Wait to test in store before purchase
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2.4%
Want to see more reviews/samples before buying
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26.4%
Not even interested
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Will wait for second hand/import
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This thread bores me
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Not interested but if it matches OTUS then I will be
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Sticking to Existing Sigma 85 1.4 or other 85mm
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Nov 18, 2016 19:50 |  #436

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Talley, please do this ASAP. I'm sure not just me would love to see them samples ߘ

I'm literally going to have to upload the Raw files to Dropbox and let u guys to it for me. Heading to NYC and not taking a computer.

I'll take them at my buddies and he will upload them for me.

I'll need someone to analyze them and post them. Any body willing to do that? I just want to see samples quick.


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Nov 18, 2016 20:10 |  #437

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Nov 18, 2016 20:15 |  #438

Holy Sh**Balls, my lens back focusing is out of control right out of the box. I know we've all talked about it, but I mean it does suck that at $1200 lens doesn't come dialed on -?




  
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Nov 18, 2016 20:29 |  #439

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Holy Sh**Balls, my lens back focusing is out of control right out of the box. I know we've all talked about it, but I mean it does suck that at $1200 lens doesn't come dialed on -?

My 200 F2 requires a +13 on my camera. I set it and now I shoot. Who cares. That's what it's there for and mine is a 4,600 dollar lens.


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Nov 18, 2016 20:33 |  #440

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It's been a pain to make these, as the lenses were rolling on the asphalt, as well as AF inconsistency and what not :)
I thought the difference will speak for itself no matter how different the shots are, but it came out quite the other way round, where you need to shoot with tripod and AF in live view to make sure everything but the lens stays the same.
Which, by itself, tells us the differences in performance are not as pronounced as the price and weight :)

The AF thing of this Art is mysterious. Every first shot is fine, then if you keep refocusing (half press of the button) without reframing, you might get blurry shots. EX won't do this, as it won't refocus on every button half-press - it kinda knows it's focused and everything is ok.
Might be fixed in forthcoming firmware updates. Might be not.
It might be a problem of high resolution lenses altogether, where their sharpness is greater than AF sensor's. AF sensor always thinks the lens is not in focus (as it sees it needs to spin the focusing in one or another direction, it's never "both directions are equal").
Ah, and not to mention the moire thing which, apparently, should affect AF sensors too.
Damn, this lens gave me moire on D700 (which has the thickest anti-aliasing filter in the history of camera engineering), on camera's JPEGs. This is by far the sharpest thing i ever had. :)

That exact behaviour is why I returned my Canon 35mm F1.4 II. Thought it would be better than the Sigma since I have a habit of tapping the focus half shutter all the time. I do this for the Sigma and it works better for me. With the Canon, it would always miss doing it.




  
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Nov 18, 2016 20:33 as a reply to  @ Talley's post |  #441

$4600 lens!?!? Yowsas




  
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Nov 18, 2016 20:36 |  #442

So I canceled my order through Amazon, ordered from CameraSpot instead. Should have it by Wednesday...should...


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Nov 18, 2016 21:57 |  #443

Little help please, my lens is still back focusing and at the 2.79 distance, I'm already at -18 and it still is focusing on my 2nd layer of batteries and not the one I'm focusing on. Is this normal?




  
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Nov 18, 2016 22:25 |  #444

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It hurt for sure. I was going to pick one up years ago and the results were really bad, but the lens was really good. If you try to rent one now from some rental companies they even warn about the autofocus inconsistency. It's just weird. I knew an Art would come so I said I'd wait it out.

I got sick of waiting and my original plan was to get the EX then sell it and buy the Art when it came out. I ended up falling in love with EX (it's my only 3rd party lens and ironically the only one that doesn't need AFMA) and honestly I'm glad to see it rivals the Art for center sharpness so I can keep mine and put the money towards my next body and PC.

For me the fear is always that you could sell a good copy and not have the same luck on your next one.


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Nov 19, 2016 00:50 |  #445

icculus479 wrote in post #18188573 (external link)
Little help please, my lens is still back focusing and at the 2.79 distance, I'm already at -18 and it still is focusing on my 2nd layer of batteries and not the one I'm focusing on. Is this normal?

you're near MFD right? Why dont you use a test chart and do proper MFA?


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Nov 19, 2016 03:19 |  #446

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Little help please, my lens is still back focusing and at the 2.79 distance, I'm already at -18 and it still is focusing on my 2nd layer of batteries and not the one I'm focusing on. Is this normal?

Are you using the Dot Tune method and BBF?

That is one adavatage to buying in store, testing copies to find a good one.


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Nov 19, 2016 08:40 |  #447

Looks like I'll have to push back the Vs 85LII till next saturday. Leaving for a trip and just cannot have enough time to do the testing properly. I'd rather wait a week and have a full day to be able to compare then to rush it into 15 minutes.


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Nov 20, 2016 22:24 |  #448

It's been a day since this thread was updated. What on earth is going on here? Just kidding. I still really haven't had a chance to go out and go too crazy! I am so sad and it started raining this evening. Will be doing something TOMORROW if it kills me.


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Nov 21, 2016 05:53 |  #449

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It's been a day since this thread was updated. What on earth is going on here? Just kidding. I still really haven't had a chance to go out and go too crazy! I am so sad and it started raining this evening. Will be doing something TOMORROW if it kills me.

I'm in NYC having fun....


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Nov 21, 2016 08:08 |  #450

havent you heard?
Canon is going to release a 85mm f1.4 L IS some time next year

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$4600 lens!?!? Yowsas

that lens is actually 5600-6000 usd new
he probably bought it used


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