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Oct 18, 2016 12:56 |  #16

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For an interchangeable lens camera I'd recommend looking into a fuji X-T10/ or x-e2s with 18-55 f/2.8-4.0 kit lens. Please not these 16mpx fuji bodies are not known for video or fast action sports documenation. I personally feel the image quality from this crop sensor is very close to my canon 5dmk2/3 in good light. I honestly never thought I'd say such a thing regarding crop sensors!!!!

It has the onboard flash. Infact the X-E2s can manually prop the flash upwards to bounce off the ceiling!!!

Using the 18mm range of the kit lens a person is capable of shooting f/2.8 (in a kit lens!!) Image quality of this lens is right up there with the older generation Canon 24-70L mk1 and 24-104 f/4IS !! The kit lens is aprox $300 when purchased in a kit.

The beauty of mirrorless is tack sharp images with no back/front focus issues found in traditional dslr's.

A safe no brainer is probably the rx100 for point and shoot. I'd take a step forward an go with a mirrorless system though.

Nice thing about the canon M series is that you can use an adapter (if you must) and use other canon lenses or even Canon flashes. Native glass is my only issue with that system.

To my eyes I'd take my fuji system with 18-55 kit lens over my Canon 80D with 16-35Lmk2 ANYDAY!! However if I was to suggest a Canon dslr for family/hobbyist the more expensive 80D opens up camcorder "like" video with phenomenal dual pixel Autofocus. Image quality is very good and you have micro adjust so you can tweak the system if you have front/back focus. Battery life is also fantastic. Tonnes of lens selection and due to the maturity of the dslr you have alot of excellent used lenses for sale. My 80D is just slightly larger than my previous Panasonic micro 4/3 GH3 body!!

b&h has great deal on an 80D with 18-55, extra battery , sd card for 1249. I paid alot more in Canada just for that body!!!!!!

For video and very good image quality the 80D is a great universal body for families (sports/ 1080 video) and even for professional use. Only regret is the slightly larger weight factor.

In the 1000 buck range (emphasis on still images)I still feel the Fuji 16mpx with 18-55 kit lens produces the best images in that price range. The 18-55 lens should not be classified as a kit lens IMO.
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Personally, while I like the Fuji stuff, I think it is a poor choice for a casual photographer. To someone who knows little to nothing about photography and isn't really trying to learn there is an overwhelming number of knobs and dials on a lot of the Fuji gear. If you just want to be able to point your camera at something zoom in and shoot pics of your kid I think there are better options.

I also tend to recommend sensors m43 or smaller to casual users as those systems will have fewer DOF issues for people who have no desire to understand what DOF is or how it works. I can't tell you how many times I have seen someone buy a DSLR and get rid of it because "too many pictures where out of focus".

For the casual picture taker I usually recommend the RX100 for low light handling, a 1" superzoom for travel photography or an m43 ILC camera for people who want to go that route.




  
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Oct 18, 2016 13:09 |  #17

DreDaze wrote in post #18157099 (external link)
she says her phone just isn't cutting it right now and is looking for something better

Maybe she should get a better phone, one with a better camera. My current Nexus 6P has a camera that is quite a bit better than my old Nexus 4. ("Blows it out of the water" to use POTN parlance. :-))


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Oct 28, 2016 09:41 |  #18

Nikon D3300 + kit
and their excellent but cheap primes for portraits


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