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Oct 15, 2016 09:32 |  #1

Thinking about moving from canon to Sony mirrorless.

My current setup is

Canon 7D
Canon L 24-70 f2.8
Canon L 70-200 f2.8 IS
Sigma 50 mm F.14

I am planning an upgrade - considering going from 7d to Sony A7II OR 5D Mark III.

This is the one I am considering -
Sony - Alpha a7 II
http://www.bestbuy.com …k/1634012.p?sku​Id=1634012 (external link)


Would these lenses work with sony for my purpose?

I use my camera to take pictures of my family. I have a 6 & 8 yr old and some (little ) landscape.

For the most part, I don't mind the weight of the camera.
Please advise me.
Thank you !


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Oct 15, 2016 09:39 |  #2

Ask yourself....

  • WHY are you wanting to switch...
  • what ADVANTAGES does it bring you to switch?
  • And what do you give up by switching to mirrorless


Do you really understand the pros and cons of the choices?

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Oct 15, 2016 10:38 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #3

Thank you so much for your reply.

I'm thinking that I have a 7D camera and it's about time to upgrade. If I am going to upgrade and spend 1000 or $1500, should I use this opportunity to switch systems and go to something better, get more technology/bang for my buck?

I do have problem with lowlight shooting, and wish that I had a full frame sensor.


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Oct 15, 2016 10:50 |  #4

I have experimented with mirrorless and have purchased a few systems - Sony A7, Only EM-1 and more recently the A7RII. I still have a Fuji XT-1 in my kit too and it comes in handy for occasional use but, for myself personally mirrorless cannot replace my Canon gear. What is important is that you get the camera that you need and is best for your purpose and not the camera a bunch of fanboys on the Internet convince you to purchase. The only way to find out for sure is give them a try if you can. Rent, borrow or purchase from somewhere that has a generous return/exchange policy.


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Oct 15, 2016 10:58 |  #5

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inspectoring wrote in post #18157450 (external link)
I use my camera to take pictures of my family. I have a 6 & 8 yr old and some (little ) landscape.

Based on what you shoot, I think that the switch to mirrorless makes a lot of sense. In fact, what I don't understand is why, if you shoot your family and some landscape, you got a 7D. The particular strengths of the 7D don't seem to align with that particular subject matter . . . . . . . nor do the weaknesses of the 7D, compared to other DSLRs in the Canon lineup.

The field of view afforded by a full frame body seems better suited to the subject matter you shoot, as does the better low light ability of a full frame mirrorless body. The autofocus and frame rate of the 7D does not seem to be something that would be particularly useful for shooting most typical family pictures, or landscape photos. Now, if some of the family pictures are going to be photos of your kids when they are moving quickly, such as playing sports at full speed, then the 7D is something that would be better suited for those action shots than would a mirrorless camera.

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Oct 15, 2016 11:01 |  #6

inspectoring wrote in post #18157499 (external link)
I'm thinking that I have a 7D camera and it's about time to upgrade. If I am going to upgrade and spend 1000 or $1500, should I use this opportunity to switch systems and go to something better, get more technology/bang for my buck?

Any conversion of brands comes with the INCREASED EXPENSE of accessories and lenses, so do NOT think of spending merely '$1000-1500'. In fact the cheapest I see the A7II going for now from a reputable dealer is $1700, and then add in the cost of the $650 Metabones adapter to use your Canon lenses. And then, with adapted lenses your Sony does not perform quite as well as it does with native lenses made for the A7II.
Quoting PetaPixel,

"To quote DPR directly:
“At this point, with these lenses, we find this update largely useless.” The adapter limits phase-detect functionality to a small region in the center and resulted in “significant hunting” in pretty much all modes tested."


Add in the need for purchasing a few more batteries, as the battery life is about 1/3 or 1/4 of what you get from a battery in the Canon.

As I said, you REALLY need to understand fully the pros and cons of the purchase decision.


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Oct 15, 2016 11:12 |  #7

Either system would work. If you were starting from scratch and considering what you are looking to shoot I would probably suggest diving in to the Sony system with an A7rII and the appropriate Sony 24-70 and 70-200 lenses.

But since you have the equipment you have, it seems like it might be simplest to just change the body over to the 5D3.

You could keep those lenses, grab a metabones adapter and use them on the Sony body, but then some of the nice AF features do not work. Don't get me wrong, the Sony works pretty well with adapted lenses (way better than just about any other system) but still......in the end if you are using a Sony it makes sense to use the Sony purpose built lenses in the places that they have them.


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Oct 15, 2016 15:23 |  #8

Wilt wrote in post #18157518 (external link)
Any conversion of brands comes with the INCREASED EXPENSE of accessories and lenses, so do NOT think of spending merely '$1000-1500'.

This.

Is the 7D not working the way it's supposed to?

You said you don't mind the weight. Other than some minor weight savings, there's no point in mirrorless unless having an EVF is absolutely essential. If you must upgrade, perhaps a used 7D2 would make more sense, or even an 80D if its features are more what you need. Don't feel compelled to upgrade just because there's something newer. Upgrade only when you're missing something you absolutely need.


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Oct 15, 2016 15:31 |  #9

Get a 6D.


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Oct 15, 2016 16:48 |  #10

Wait a little bit longer and get the 5D3, with the release of the 5D4 there will be a lot coming on the market in the coming months.


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Oct 15, 2016 19:32 |  #11

I'd go m4/3. And I did. Lots of tiny, lightweight, native fast primes, and the lack of weight/bulk DOES make a huge difference. Panasonic DFD AF is brilliant. Blindingly fast and accurate, even on moving subjects. I picked up a GX8 on a half price sale, and am absolutely rapt with it. The EVF is unreal. Puts my 6D to shame. Huge, bright, colorful, and loads of information available, such as focus peaking, and overexposure, white balance etc, before you press the shutter. 1/16000 shutter in electronic mode. Just something to think about.




  
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Oct 15, 2016 22:21 |  #12

Get a 5dmk3........done!! This is of course your wanting fast AF and stay in the Canon world.

Your description of your application I'd actually go with a 6d for incredible high iso capabilities and great center focus speed. When I shot with 2 x 5dmk2 I'd shoot any type of event by focus/recompose style shooting and I virtually NEVER missed a shot!!!

The 7D is very poor in low light. If you buy a 6D your jaw will drop in the MASSIVE increase in image quality with your current glass.

Going with anything non Canon will very likely cost you more.

I also shoot and love fuji. A comparable kit would be an X-t1, X-t10 or X-E2s (older X-E2 with new firmware is equiv to the new X-E2s!!!) with 18-55 kit lens. Honestly I'm 100% certain the IQ would be ALOT better than your 7d with 24-70Lmk1. For a budget fuji lens the 55-200 f/2.5-4.8 can easily be comparable to a Canon 70-200 f/4is (your 70-200 would have more pop due to f/2.8 faster glass). A fuji 56 f/1.2 would destroy a Sigma 50 f/1.4 (non art) in image quality and accuracy. Even the older 16mpx fuji's would be cleaner at higher iso than a 7dmk1.

New fuji X-t10 with killer 18-55 kit lens $1099usd
55-200 for 699usd
56 f/1.2 for 999usd

Honestly if you buy a 5dmk3 and external flash your kit will be great!! I'd suggest getting a semi wide fast prime like a 35 f/2IS (or 35Lmk2$$$, Art 35 f/1.4 etc) can be another great compliment to your canon kit.


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Oct 16, 2016 05:19 |  #13

I've got a 5dM3 with the normal compliment of L glass. I've also got an old 60D for emergency backup. In the coming months I'm going to purchase a Fuji mirrorless with a couple of good quality lenes (Fuji). This camera will be used when we travel overseas. The prospect of lugging the 5d and associated thru an international trip is a bit daunting. The 5DM3 will be used domestically especially for the high landscape stuff that I do a lot of.

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Oct 16, 2016 08:53 |  #14

Used 5dmk3.

I am mainly Fuji XT1 now a days. Very happy with Fuji and more with their glass and things like aperture rings. But in your case, stay with canon and get 5dmk3 over 6d IMHO. 6d is nice but canon needs to put more than 1 cross type points in that camera. It is 2016 and they still think like they are the only game in town like it was 10 yrs ago.


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Oct 16, 2016 10:47 |  #15

I think when fuji brings out a line of hss/ttl flashes the camera world can change a bit more. If they had an affordable price point ttl/hss capable flash like the Canon 430exiii I'd suggest a fuji to all of my friends looking for a killer camera system.

If you can buy a new Canon 6d for 1500bucks usd that is CHEAP with incredible value! US folks ar incredibly! In Canada it's still a $1900 cdn buck body.

If I'm running and gunning I dont even use my joystick on my 5d3 and I still get the shots with an extremely high hit rate. So basicall I can get similar hit rate just using center point and recomposing. Never had an issue with run gun. However if your a newborn shooter or in the studio I find having 5dmk3's cross points valuable using the joystick.

OP, if you buy a 5d3 your set for a very very long time! Your kids will start sports soon or already in it so the fast AF of the 5d3 will be a universal use body. Plus you can buy all kinds of flash systems easily.

Fuji fails me BIGTIME when it comes to run and gun shooting outdoors with no HSS/TTL OEM flash. It's still constantly getting the release date postponed. For some not having HSS/TTL flash isn't a big deal but for me it's a deal killer for my style of shooting. However for my secondary system it's awesome!!

Everyone has different needs in a system. You must make a sound decision with your research. I think this discussion on POTN will give you a kick start in your brainstorming!


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