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Oct 25, 2016 11:21 |  #1

I have a Canon 6D & a EF 24-105mm f/4L as my walkaround lens of choice. However, I am discovering more situations where a wider-angle zoom lens would be ideal. Although the Canon EF16-35mm f/4L is quite alluring, I am not sure that it would be preferable to go with yet a wider lens. Having said that, I looked at the Canon 11-24mm f/4L but was deterred by the price tag.

Thus, the question I have is: for those of you familiar with non-Canon lenses somewhere in the 10-24mm range, can you recommend a suitable lens with an IQ on par with the Canon L-series lenses, but at a price point around $1000-$1200? Thank you so much.




  
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Oct 25, 2016 13:15 |  #2

One issue with the ultra wide lenses is that the glass is bulbous so you can't use typical screw mount filter systems with them. Some companies make adapters / mounts for the UWAs but they are pricey.

I shoot a lot of landscapes and find the 16-35 f/4 to be very good for the task. I like long exposures so adding filters to it is simple and reasonable.

Sigma has a new 12-24 f/4 that is supposed to compete with Canon's 11-24 at a $1,600 price point. I haven't seen any real world reviews of it yet. It does have the bulbous front glass.

Tamron has a new 15-30 but I have not read about it yet.

I also have a Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 which is very sharp for an inexpensive lens. It is manual focus, but the version I have has a focus confirmation chip. It's front element is bulbous so I don't use filters with it. I did recently shoot the ruins of a graphite mill with it and the extra 2mm over the 16-35 was helpful. Many people like it for astro work as well.


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Oct 25, 2016 13:25 as a reply to  @ KaosImagery's post |  #3

Thank you for the heads-up on the attachment of filters. It was something I hadn't considered.

I must admit that I am quite impressed with the reports on the Canon 16-35mm f/4L. I'm just a bit concerned whether the widest angle (i.e. 16mm) will be sufficient compared to my Canon 24-105mm lens.




  
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Oct 25, 2016 14:20 |  #4

What about a Rokinon 12mm? It is tack sharp and a fantastic lens, even though its completely manual. $375 new and can be found used for a bit cheaper than that.


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Oct 25, 2016 20:26 |  #5

kitjv wrote in post #18166621 (external link)
I'm just a bit concerned whether the widest angle (i.e. 16mm) will be sufficient compared to my Canon 24-105mm lens.

Have you even used an ultra wide? 16mm is quite a bit wider then 24mm. If you're not sure that 16mm will be wide enough then renting one might be a good idea before you drop your hard earned money.

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What about a Rokinon 12mm? It is tack sharp and a fantastic lens, even though its completely manual. $375 new and can be found used for a bit cheaper than that.

The rokinon 12mm is a great lens but last I knew they didn't make it in an ef mount. I think they have a 12mm f2.8 in ef mount but that is a fisheye.




  
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Oct 25, 2016 22:34 as a reply to  @ gremlin75's post |  #6

Yes, i have used a 10mm lens in the past. But in all honesty, I would likely use anything wider than a 16mm only occasionally (interior architecture comes to mind). So I an leaning toward the EF 16-35mm.




  
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Oct 26, 2016 10:17 |  #7

kitjv wrote in post #18167059 (external link)
Yes, i have used a 10mm lens in the past. But in all honesty, I would likely use anything wider than a 16mm only occasionally (interior architecture comes to mind). So I an leaning toward the EF 16-35mm.

10mm on a crop or a full frame body?




  
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Oct 26, 2016 11:28 |  #8

Canon's 10-22mm is one I have and like. An EFS lens so doesn't work on full frame, but does on crop sensors.


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Oct 26, 2016 12:02 |  #9

gremlin75 wrote in post #18167428 (external link)
10mm on a crop or a full frame body?

On a crop body (60D).




  
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Oct 26, 2016 19:21 |  #10

kitjv wrote in post #18167525 (external link)
On a crop body (60D).

Ok awesome. So you want a wider angle, or a wider field of view, then 24mm on your 6D

The field of view from a 10mm lens on a crop camera (60D) is the same as the field of view from a 16mm on a full frame camera (6D). So ask yourself, was 10mm wide enough on your 60D. If it was then 16mm on a full frame (your 6D) will be the same. If it wasn't wide enough then you will need something wider like the rokinon 14mm, canon 11-24mm, or sigma 12-24mm lens.




  
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Oct 27, 2016 10:26 |  #11

kitjv wrote in post #18167059 (external link)
Yes, i have used a 10mm lens in the past. But in all honesty, I would likely use anything wider than a 16mm only occasionally (interior architecture comes to mind). So I an leaning toward the EF 16-35mm.

10mm on APS-C is going to look similar to 16mm on full frame.

So the 16-35 is probably the way to go for you. It's very wide.

If you need wider than that, it will be a prime (12mm or 14mm), or it will be Canon's expensive 11mm.

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Nov 02, 2016 07:11 |  #12

kitjv wrote in post #18167525 (external link)
On a crop body (60D).

Just fyi, your original post says you have a 6D, not a 60D. :)


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Nov 02, 2016 10:45 |  #13

I own the Tamron 15-30mm and can highly recommend it, way better than I expected it to be. It does have a convex front element (filter issue), and Vibration Control (Tamron's IS) makes it rather heavy, so full disclosure: I'm selling mine for the 16-35mm f/2.8 III. If you don't think you need f/2.8 then the best option available is the Canon 16-35mm f/4.

Everybody needs a UWA (personal opinion)!

Edit: Oops, you have an APS-C body. Neither of the above lenses will work, and while there are very good UWA for Canon APS-C you're not going to find anything "L" quality.




  
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Nov 11, 2016 10:46 |  #14

Nethawked wrote in post #18173798 (external link)
I own the Tamron 15-30mm and can highly recommend it, way better than I expected it to be. It does have a convex front element (filter issue), and Vibration Control (Tamron's IS) makes it rather heavy, so full disclosure: I'm selling mine for the 16-35mm f/2.8 III. If you don't think you need f/2.8 then the best option available is the Canon 16-35mm f/4.

Everybody needs a UWA (personal opinion)!

Edit: Oops, you have an APS-C body. Neither of the above lenses will work, and while there are very good UWA for Canon APS-C you're not going to find anything "L" quality.

there are some very good 10 - 22 lenses that approach L quality in build and product. I rented a couple of time before I bought and did notice that some were sharper than others but the one I bought produces images comparable to the 17 - 40 L glass I have.




  
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Nov 11, 2016 21:54 |  #15

noopi wrote in post #18173658 (external link)
Just fyi, your original post says you have a 6D, not a 60D. :)

I think he was just answering my question as to which body he's used a 10mm lens on (60D) and that the 6D that he said he has in his first post is his current body

Nethawked wrote in post #18173798 (external link)
Edit: Oops, you have an APS-C body. Neither of the above lenses will work, and while there are very good UWA for Canon APS-C you're not going to find anything "L" quality.

See my above quote reply. I believe he does in fact have a full frame body (6D) so your suggestions would be perfect. The 60D just came into play when I asked what body he has used a 10mm lens on before.




  
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