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Nov 02, 2016 10:56 |  #1

My daughter and son play sports and I cover their play and shoot the team and the opponent in hopes of parents purchasing the images. It has worked out fine and I enjoy it. My daughter has joined a new club volleyball team this year. They are new in the fact that this is their first year of operation and have split from another group. ANYWAY, I have the ability to get the contract for the team photo's and the individual photos. My question is, what % should I "give back" to the organization as a contribution/advertisi​ng in order to secure the deal. What range or % should I offer?

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Nov 02, 2016 11:22 |  #2

Every league is different- I've seen contracts run anywhere from 0% - 25%. I'm on the board for my local little league, so I've seen a variety of options.

Most common is 10-20%. Are you shooting just the one team, or an entire league of club teams? If it's just the one team, you may be better off doing a barter for them- get your daughters team fees waived for doing the T&I photos.

Another option is to have an add on item that all the profits go to the group- for example the team photo, a mug, keychain, etc. Cost $X and the entire $X amount goes to the league.

Our current contract gives us 15% of the total orders, 100% of the $5 keychain add on, and a $1,500 bonus (paid in the first year) for signing a 4 year contract. The league is a larger one- around 750 kids, so the bonus was well worth it for the group who does the images- average order last year was around $40/player.




  
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Nov 02, 2016 13:55 as a reply to  @ Qlayer2's post |  #3

this is a new club team. I would be doing it for the club here in town. They have about 120 players. I talked to the lady in charge and she said that they had not thought about doing T&I shots! I explained to her that usually some $$ gets returned to the team to help the "scholarship" fund assist those who cant pay for all the travel involved. The add-on thing seem like a good idea, especially if it is a bag tag or something they can use for the individual player.

Thanks for your ideas! We plan to meet with the head of the team next week and I plan to have an idea/plan to present!


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Nov 10, 2016 08:01 |  #4

Kickbacks are an extortion racket by these sports clubs and leagues. If you get right down to it this type of demand/requirement to get the photo contract is probably illegal and maybe even RICO illegal on a Federal level.

Have photographed sports for news for decades and would never do team stuff that required kickbacks.

If you want to donate, fine. But paying kickbacks is not.


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Nov 11, 2016 11:54 |  #5

No kick backs. If they want to hire me fine. They will get photos for there fee. If I'm there on speculation then its all mine.


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Nov 11, 2016 17:12 |  #6

Let me clarify, I am wanting to give back to them as I always do for some teams/kids who may not be able to afford a good shot. I simply didn't know what to title this post. I know from reading many posts for school picks, the school expects a cut of the action. Thanks for all of y'alls input. I think we are going to suggest a bag tag with the girls pic on it as the item that all proceeds go back to the team.


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