Struggling on a mirrorless camera.. Which one?

So I shoot with Canon 1DXs, and while I really enjoy it, for family trips and vacations it is an absolute PIG to carry around.

So I'd like to get a mirrorless camera that i could also use as a back up in a pinch if I had to. I'm looking at either the Fujifilm XT-1 or XT-2, or the Sony A7II. Most likely this camera will be used for family stuff and on vacations so I dont want to spend more, and Ideally i want to keep it small with a single lens or two so I'm not packing around a ton of stuff. Any suggestions? Feel free to add another option if you'd like. As far as the full frame vs apsc, I'm not pulled either way or at least i think i'm not...

Hey there. I experimented with several mirrorless bodies to use as a compliment to my Canon DSLR kit. I tried out the Olympus OM-D EM-1, Sony A7 & A7Rii and a few Fuji bodies. I finally settled on Fuji and presently have an XT-1. The system makes a lot of sense and there is some exceptional glass available. I chose the XT-1 for the weather sealing but if that isn't a requirement you can go even smaller. In all honesty I'm not super comfortable with any mirrorless system so I think trying before you buy is important. I use my Fuji for adapting my M42 mount collection. Mirrorless systems are perfect for this purpose. Best of luck with your search.

Both the Sony a7 and Fuji X-t series are great cameras. Since the main focus is I size I think I would with with the X-t2. The X-t2 and a7II bodies are about the same size but in general the X series lenses will be a little smaller.

An X-t2 with an 18-55mm f2.8-4 is a nice little combo that is fairly small. If you're more of a prime shooter then there are lots of great primed to choose from.

You say you would also like the mirrorless to be used as a backup to the 1Dx. The Sony mirrorless cameras ( A7x or A6x ) can use all your existing Canon lenses so if the mirrorless is to be used as a backup, you can use all your existing lenses on a Sony mirrorless.

The A6300 with the 35 2.8 and 28 2.0 make a great vacation setup.

I had the same problem. My two Canon bodies are 1DIV and 1DX and they are not fun to carry around when photography is not the top item on my agenda. I went with the Fuji X-E2 as my mirrorless. It is really easy to carry this super light kit around and the images are very nice to boot.

As a true back up in a mirrorless I would look at the EOS M5. Seamless adaptation of the EOS lenses as well as flashes. Similar "look" to the files that you are used to from Canon.

Other than that I would look at Olympus for size, superb glass, excellent feature set and great IQ

Another vote for the EOS M5... All of you current lenses will work. I did by a Panasonic FZ1000 for vacations since it is a bridge camera, it worked out well.

A7ii + 24-70f4, however I'm heavily biased towards image quality. It can also use your EOS glass if needed with fast PDAF and better precision.

I had the same problem, heap of Canon gear thats just too heavy to lug around unless I'm there for photos. Informal day trips or holidays where i don't have the weight I wanted something smaller.

I went Fuji. Started with the X-T1 and X100T, bought a XPro2 for the new sensor and have been really impressed with it.

I'd opt for the Xpro2 or X-T2. The 10-24 has been my most used lens of late while travelling the UK and Europe. The 18-55 was also handy. Used the 35 f2 a little, wished i had the 16 1.4, didn't use the 50-140 much at all.

Charlie wrote in post #18175921
A7ii + 24-70f4, however I'm heavily biased towards image quality. It can also use your EOS glass if needed with fast PDAF and better precision.

I'm in the same boat. I don't want to give up any image quality by going mirrorless. My ultimate goal is the image...and if I can use a small camera to achieve this, that's even better.

I use both an A7R and A6000 for my travel / landscape photography. I have reduced my overall equipment bulk and weight transitioning to mirrorless and have improved on the image quality. A total win-win in both areas. I still use some of my Canon lenses with my A7R, but have been transitioning to the small / lighter Loxia and Batis line of lenses...all deliver extremely superb image quality in a compact form.

I'd go Micro 43. Some of the IQ limitations would push me away from necessarily recommending it as a main kit, but since you are looking for a secondary kit to a Canon FF, I would emphasize small size, which M43 is best at.

Hogloff wrote in post #18175974
I'm in the same boat. I don't want to give up any image quality by going mirrorless. My ultimate goal is the image...and if I can use a small camera to achieve this, that's even better.

I use both an A7R and A6000 for my travel / landscape photography. I have reduced my overall equipment bulk and weight transitioning to mirrorless and have improved on the image quality. A total win-win in both areas. I still use some of my Canon lenses with my A7R, but have been transitioning to the small / lighter Loxia and Batis line of lenses...all deliver extremely superb image quality in a compact form.

yep, only downside is the price and some lenses.

DISCLAIMER 1. *I dont have issue with sony ergonomics which some find repulsive.*
DISCLAIMER 2. *I use mostly native lenses and take full advantage of the high tech that sony offers*

I get good results from the CV 10, SZ 24-70, SZ 35, Sony 50 f1.8, and Sony 70-300

All but the telephoto is really light and I'de have no issues bringing the whole package on travel (have brought similar on international trips).

I dont shoot with a 16-35, but wouldnt be totally against it..... just love the 10 when I go ultra ultra wide.

However my core lenses are the 24-70, 35, and 50. I doubt any other mirrorless platform makes significantly smaller lenses and certainly not as high quality when mated to the body (I'm shooting A7rii currently). And of course, sony works very well with canon lenses as a backup.

Attached are photozones numbers of how the fuji 16-55 f2.8 vs sony 24-70, which is widely considered one of their poorest lenses, however the sony combo with body is smaller and lighter than the fuji equivalent

Personally Sony A7rII is very nice but that and putting canon lenses, there is no weight savings. Might as well as carry 1dx. Can then use it as a weapon if and when needed.

Yes I tried Batis 85mm f1.8 on A7Rii, and it felt same as 5dmk3 with 85L.

Charlie wrote in post #18176071
yep, only downside is the price and some lenses.

DISCLAIMER 1. *I dont have issue with sony ergonomics which some find repulsive.*
DISCLAIMER 2. *I use mostly native lenses and take full advantage of the high tech that sony offers*

I get good results from the CV 10, SZ 24-70, SZ 35, Sony 50 f1.8, and Sony 70-300

All but the telephoto is really light and I'de have no issues bringing the whole package on travel (have brought similar on international trips).

I dont shoot with a 16-35, but wouldnt be totally against it..... just love the 10 when I go ultra ultra wide.

However my core lenses are the 24-70, 35, and 50. I doubt any other mirrorless platform makes significantly smaller lenses and certainly not as high quality when mated to the body (I'm shooting A7rii currently). And of course, sony works very well with canon lenses as a backup.

Attached are photozones numbers of how the fuji 16-55 f2.8 vs sony 24-70, which is widely considered one of their poorest lenses, however the sony combo with body is smaller and lighter than the fuji equivalent

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Comparing a fuji with a 2.8 lens with a sony and a f4 lens just doesn't seem fair. Not when fuji also have a 18-55 that is a f2.8-f4 and its tiny in comparison.

As to Sony size....

http://petapixel.com …mirrorless-fatal-mistake/

Aus.Morgo wrote in post #18176238
Comparing a fuji with a 2.8 lens with a sony and a f4 lens just doesn't seem fair. Not when fuji also have a 18-55 that is a f2.8-f4 and its tiny in comparison.

As to Sony size....

http://petapixel.com …mirrorless-fatal-mistake/

why isnt it fair? Sony has double the sensor size, Fuji has double the aperture, that means same/similar amounts of light. If you must compare variable aperture, then compare the fuji 18-55 to sony's 28-70, which would outperform it either way.

the article is junk clickbait: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1456744

have you seen the alternative to the CV 10, 12, 15, batis 18, loxia 21, batis 25, FE 28, 28-70, 24-70f4, FE 35, 70-300?