Is ppi important for desktop wallpapers?
A person wants to buy an image of mine as a wallpaper for his "high resolution" monitor. Is ppi important in this? Is 72ppi the same as 240ppi for this type of non-printing use?
Nov 26, 2016 18:12 | #1 Is ppi important for desktop wallpapers? Website: Iowa Landscape Photography
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98kellrs Senior Member More info | Nov 26, 2016 18:17 | #2 Ryan
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tonylong ...winded More info | Nov 26, 2016 19:10 | #3 Modern monitor resolutions are typically about 100 ppi, but with higher resolution monitors (such as the 4k/5k monitors, not the 72 ppi of the "old days") you would adjust your image dimensions in pixels accordingly. Tony
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Archibald You must be quackers! More info | Nov 26, 2016 19:57 | #4 If you are exporting a pic from Lightroom for Screen for use as wallpaper, then you should specify the exact pixel dimensions corresponding to the user's monitor. You might have to go back to Develop to tailor the aspect ratio, or one of the dimensions might be short. ("Aspect ratio" means the ratio of the long side to the short side.) "Resolution" in the export dialog is irrelevant if you are outputting for screen. You will get exactly the same picture with 1 ppi as with 1000 ppi. Try it. Canon R5 and R7, assorted Canon lenses, Sony RX100, Pentax Spotmatic F
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BigAl007 Cream of the Crop 8,118 posts Gallery: 556 photos Best ofs: 1 Likes: 1681 Joined Dec 2010 Location: Repps cum Bastwick, Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, UK. More info | Nov 26, 2016 20:04 | #5 As Tony said most modern monitors operate at between about 96 PPI, the current "Microsoft desktop standard, for which on screen fonts are optimised, and about 110 PPI, which is about what you get on a 2560×1440 27" monitor. I'm not too sure what the 4K screens run at, but my 27" 5K screen is 219 PPI. Obviously you would need to crop the image to a 16:9 ratio, and then resize it to match the pixel dimensions. For this the actual PPI setting is immaterial, it won't be used. Where the screens physical resolution might matter is when you come to apply your output sharpening. I would imagine that for the much higher resolution 4/5K screens you might need to add a higher level of sharpening for optimal results, compared to what is normal for low resolution displays. Be aware if using LR that unlike for sharpen for paper options, which do adjust the amount of sharpening based on output resolution, the sharpen for screen options are the same regardless of resolution. Oh yes and don't forget that the monitor size in the specification is for the visible diagonal, not the width of the image.
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Bassat "I am still in my underwear." 8,075 posts Likes: 2742 Joined Oct 2015 More info | Nov 26, 2016 20:44 | #6 Permanent banDo the math for your monitor: I use a 22" diagonal monitor, so.
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Archibald You must be quackers! More info | Nov 26, 2016 21:17 | #7 Bassat wrote in post #18195573 Do the math for your monitor: I use a 22" diagonal monitor, so. Long side #pixels = (diagonal^2 - short-side^2)^(1/2) Short side #pixels = (diagonal^2 - long-side^2)^(1/2) That will tell you how many pixels x pixels you need. Forget PPI. Resize to pixel dimension and your done. You shouldn't try to calculate the pixel dimensions. They need to be exact. Ask the user what they are. In case of doubt, on a Windows system, you can usually right-click on a blank place on the desktop and select "Graphics Properties" or similar, and then click on the appropriate tab. The pixel dimensions (resolution) will be displayed. Canon R5 and R7, assorted Canon lenses, Sony RX100, Pentax Spotmatic F
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Bassat "I am still in my underwear." 8,075 posts Likes: 2742 Joined Oct 2015 More info | Permanent banHa! Two clicks to get 1920x1080. That was easy.
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Archibald You must be quackers! More info | Nov 26, 2016 23:28 | #9 Bassat wrote in post #18195676 Ha! Two clicks to get 1920x1080. That was easy. Yeah, same as mine. Canon R5 and R7, assorted Canon lenses, Sony RX100, Pentax Spotmatic F
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Nov 27, 2016 09:09 | #10 Thank you all. Here's an additional quirk... Website: Iowa Landscape Photography
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Bassat "I am still in my underwear." 8,075 posts Likes: 2742 Joined Oct 2015 More info | Nov 27, 2016 09:14 | #11 Permanent banphotoguy6405 wrote in post #18195943 Thank you all. Here's an additional quirk... The photo is in portrait format. I have already told him that it will not cover the entire screen, but will have blank spaces on each side. I suppose I could size for his vertical space, but I am thinking I should still size for his entire monitor and let him shrink-to-fit as necessary. Thoughts? Most version of Windows allow different ways of rendering the Desktop BG: Full size (may or may not cover entire screen, but keeps aspect ratio), Tile (tiles multiple copies to fill desktop), Stretch (fills screen, but will distort aspect ration if nesssary).
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BigAl007 Cream of the Crop 8,118 posts Gallery: 556 photos Best ofs: 1 Likes: 1681 Joined Dec 2010 Location: Repps cum Bastwick, Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, UK. More info | Nov 27, 2016 11:21 | #12 photoguy6405 wrote in post #18195943 Thank you all. Here's an additional quirk... The photo is in portrait format. I have already told him that it will not cover the entire screen, but will have blank spaces on each side. I suppose I could size for his vertical space, but I am thinking I should still size for his entire monitor and let him shrink-to-fit as necessary. Thoughts? It really depends on if you are interested in ensuring that your work is presented on his screen to its optimum. Given a 16:9 ratio monitor a full height image is going to fit into the width of the screen 2 and 2/3 times (2.66667×) so you either go with that and he has the choice of (under Windows, not sure about Mac) centering it, tiling it, so that there are the aforementioned 2.6 copies of the image across the screen, or of course he selects fit to screen, and the image becomes over two and a half times wider than it should.
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Nov 27, 2016 19:43 | #13 98kellrs wrote in post #18195449 See here: http://www.photoshopessentials.com …-ppi-web-resolution-myth/ Awesome article. Thank you. Website: Iowa Landscape Photography
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