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Nov 30, 2016 09:36 |  #1

Are there any studio strobe systems that are compatible with the Canon ST-E3-RT Speedlite Transmitter?




  
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Nov 30, 2016 09:46 |  #2

Not that I know of but why care, most Tx now a days are cheap. If I was buying combination of speedlites and strobes, I would look at Godox system.


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Nov 30, 2016 12:22 |  #3

KatManDEW wrote in post #18199076 (external link)
Are there any studio strobe systems that are compatible with the Canon ST-E3-RT Speedlite Transmitter?

See:
http://www.phottixstor​e.com …ry-pack.html?options=cart (external link)

.. but some would say that you would be digging yourself deeper into Canon's "RT" trench . . .




  
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Nov 30, 2016 20:17 |  #4

OceanRipple* wrote in post #18199233 (external link)
See:
http://www.phottixstor​e.com …ry-pack.html?options=cart (external link)

.. but some would say that you would be digging yourself deeper into Canon's "RT" trench . . .

Phottix has issues to resolve with their Indra 500's that work with their own proprietary radio system. I currently have 3 Indra 500 boat anchors. I switched to Godox AD600's, AD360II's and the Godox X system transmitters and for the first time in 13 years I am finally happy with my flash system. I still use Canon 600EX-RTs and the wireless RT system for my "on camera" needs because I hate Godox Speedlites swivel heads so you would think I would be a candidate for the new Indra RT. Lol. Not in this life time. My AD360IIs work just fine with my Canon Wireless RT system when I use (interestingly enough) Phottix Laso receivers.


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Nov 30, 2016 21:45 |  #5

Your best bet is probably using Yongnuo YNE3-RX receivers with the Canon ST-E3-RT.

I could not find much information on doing this, but there is some information on using the receivers with strobes in the reviews on B&H and Adorama. I believe the receivers will fire the strobes but it is likely they you will have to make most of the settings on the strobes instead of at the transmitter or the camera.
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …051677562%2C&A=​details&Q= (external link)

http://www.adorama.com …49-uTctNSkEdx_BoCoLrw_wcB (external link)


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Nov 30, 2016 22:14 |  #6

agv8or wrote in post #18199668 (external link)
.... My AD360IIs work just fine with my Canon Wireless RT system when I use (interestingly enough) Phottix Laso receivers.

Would that not also solve the OPs question? ie: Use a TTL studio strobe like the AD600, etc. with the Phottix Laso receiver?


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Your best bet is probably using Yongnuo YNE3-RX receivers with the Canon ST-E3-RT....

And this is the Yongnuo version to do the same.


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Dec 01, 2016 01:29 |  #7

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18199766 (external link)
Would that not also solve the OPs question? ie: Use a TTL studio strobe like the AD600, etc. with the Phottix Laso receiver?

They could use the Laso receiver to trigger the AD600 but they would not have any remote flash power control or TTL. They would need to use either an FT16 or XT16 transmitter, with the appropriate receiver, to make manual flash setting in the strobe remotely.

I use the Laso receivers so that I have full TTL control of the AD360II's when using the RT system. Yongnuo YNE3-RX receivers do not play nice with the Godox flash units. Phottix Laso receivers have worked really well with integrating the AD360's and TT685's in with the RT system.


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Dec 01, 2016 11:23 |  #8

agv8or wrote in post #18199899 (external link)
They could use the Laso receiver to trigger the AD600 but they would not have any remote flash power control or TTL. They would need to use either an FT16 or XT16 transmitter, with the appropriate receiver, to make manual flash setting in the strobe remotely.

I use the Laso receivers so that I have full TTL control of the AD360II's when using the RT system. Yongnuo YNE3-RX receivers do not play nice with the Godox flash units. Phottix Laso receivers have worked really well with integrating the AD360's and TT685's in with the RT system.


Interesting, i get what you are saying and agree, i personally would not do this as I have no Canon RT gear, but I do have another question.

How is it that the Laso works so well, "full TTL control" when paired with the AD360II, but you feel they would not offer the same functionality with the AD600TTL? What is different?


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Dec 01, 2016 13:22 |  #9

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18200148 (external link)
Interesting, i get what you are saying and agree, i personally would not do this as I have no Canon RT gear, but I do have another question.

How is it that the Laso works so well, "full TTL control" when paired with the AD360II, but you feel they would not offer the same functionality with the AD600TTL? What is different?

I can put the AD360II in the hotshoe of the Laso receiver. AD600B...not, only can use sync cable.


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Dec 01, 2016 13:42 |  #10

agv8or wrote in post #18200273 (external link)
I can put the AD360II in the hotshoe of the Laso receiver. AD600B...not, only can use sync cable.


...and now we pause for Jake's big "DUH moment of the day" ;)

Thank you for your patience!


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Dec 01, 2016 15:07 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #11

It would be a novel idea to have something like an RJ11 jack, that could be used to transmit TTL communication to the larger strobes via a cable to a TTL receiver, now that this capability is available. Either that or they could put a TTL hotfoot on the top of the strobe but, you know someone would try to mount it in the camera hotshoe. You could turn the hotfoot backwards to try to prevent this but I am sure someone would try. I doubt Godox marketing would allow for either.

The above ideas might be something to suggest to Godox, but I doubt they would be interested or even listen in the first place. I have made the suggestion many times of making the Speedlite flash heads initially swivel rearwards rather than forwards. It would not make a difference for "off camera" flash users but for "on camera" use, would be much more user friendly for bouncing flash. Rather than moving the flash head all the way around through the forward position to switch from bouncing flash from the right side to the left side, or visa versa, it would be quicker and easier to just move it from side to side. If you ever needed forward facing flash you would still have this capability. Oh well I would just settle for a easier swiveling flash head from Godox at this point but until they get there military surplus grease used up I doubt we'll see this happen any time soon.


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Dec 02, 2016 08:51 |  #12

agv8or wrote in post #18199668 (external link)
Phottix has issues to resolve with their Indra 500's that work with their own proprietary radio system. I currently have 3 Indra 500 boat anchors.

I would really like to hear about your problems with the Indra since I am really interested in the Indra500LC.




  
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Dec 02, 2016 11:02 |  #13

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I would really like to hear about your problems with the Indra since I am really interested in the Indra500LC.

I talked extensively about the issues I had with the Indra 500 in the threads below. My Indra 500's have been collecting dust since I switched over to the Godox X system a year ago. I haven't kept up with any new firmware updates, if there even is any. I was intrigued by the Canon RT Indra but that is as far as it goes for me. Has Phottix improved the Indra? Does the Canon RT Indra work well with the Canon RT system? I'll never know.

Both Phottix and Godox customer service, from the companies themselves, is virtually non existent and very frustrating to deal with. Thankfully both companies have good representation with their USA based distributors and dealers.

Be aware that my experiences and the basis of the following threads may not be indicative of how the Indra 500 may behave with any new firmware or of any new models of Indra's such as the RT version.

https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=1398​168&page=1

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1437645

https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=1446​343&page=1


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Dec 04, 2016 01:22 |  #14

agv8or wrote in post #18201096 (external link)
I talked extensively about the issues I had with the Indra 500 in the threads below. My Indra 500's have been collecting dust since I switched over to the Godox X system a year ago. I haven't kept up with any new firmware updates, if there even is any. I was intrigued by the Canon RT Indra but that is as far as it goes for me. Has Phottix improved the Indra? Does the Canon RT Indra work well with the Canon RT system? I'll never know.

Both Phottix and Godox customer service, from the companies themselves, is virtually non existent and very frustrating to deal with. Thankfully both companies have good representation with their USA based distributors and dealers.

Be aware that my experiences and the basis of the following threads may not be indicative of how the Indra 500 may behave with any new firmware or of any new models of Indra's such as the RT version.

Thanks for all the info. From what I can read, problem is mainly about the shifting light temp on lower flash levels caused by the TTL pre-flash.

Since the Indra 500LC version most probably won't be using a pre-flash in manual mode (Canon RT doesn'5 work that way), I think we might be able to predict that problem won't be there on this flash.

I'm still a bit unsure as my experience with Phottix is a bit hit or miss. I love some of their stuff I bought (like the Laso receiver) and hate some other stuff I bought from them (a strip box I was never able to take down and ended up selling at half price).

Let's hope that someone who knows what he's talking about will review te unit soon.




  
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Dec 04, 2016 02:21 |  #15

Yogue wrote in post #18202676 (external link)
Thanks for all the info. From what I can read, problem is mainly about the shifting light temp on lower flash levels caused by the TTL pre-flash.

Since the Indra 500LC version most probably won't be using a pre-flash in manual mode (Canon RT doesn'5 work that way), I think we might be able to predict that problem won't be there on this flash.

I'm still a bit unsure as my experience with Phottix is a bit hit or miss. I love some of their stuff I bought (like the Laso receiver) and hate some other stuff I bought from them (a strip box I was never able to take down and ended up selling at half price).

Let's hope that someone who knows what he's talking about will review te unit soon.

My biggest issue with the Indra 500's was inconsistent flash output in both TTL as well as Manual modes. I also had the color shift that others were experiencing. My Indra 500 batteries also drained flat after a few weeks of sitting around. But, I had some of the very first flash units so hopefully they've improved them.


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