70-200 2.8 IS II vs 4 and lose the 100 2.8?

I may finally be upgrading my (beloved) 40D for a 7DII.

I shoot a lot of sports / kids / activities both indoors and out.
Summary of most common sports / subjects I shoot:

Volleyball, basketball, Wakeboarding, Downhill skiing, karate, dogs, kids, kids with dogs.

For lenses, I'm thinking about getting the 70-200 2.8 IS II - especially since I will be shooting indoor volleyball and basketball in relatively poorly lit gyms.

With the huge ISO range in the 7DII would the (much cheaper) F4IS be as versatile as the 2.8 (for those that shoot a lot of sports)?

IF I go with the 2.8IS, I would of course sell my old F4 (non-IS) and then should I sell my Canon 100 2.8 macro?

The 100 is a sharp lens, but I imagine the 70-200 would be every bit as sharp and then some and also have IS. I don't really shoot much macro stuff anymore, had it mainly for clinical work and the pocket digital cameras are much more versatile for my needs. Would lighten my bag and also give me more funds for the trade up too!

So, looking for speed, low light, overall versatility as well as downsizing the lens collection. I'm not afraid of a heavy lens, but the wife may not appreciate it, but it'll help build up her biceps!!
Thanks for any insight and experiences!

If you don't shoot macro and don't care about the weight and size, then the 100/2.8 is definitely redundant (and worse at infinity... well, at least my copy was).

in my opinion, for indoor action that you are shooting, I would recommend the f/2.8 if weight is not of primary concern.

The macro is for another application so I would not lose it unless you have decided to quit macro.

Getting paid to take photos is strong motivation for lifting and lowering the additional 25.8 ounces of weight of the f/2.8 zoom over the f/4 zoom. If you do not have the motivation of pay, do you have sufficient self motivation otherwise?

Let that thought guide your decision.

I went through the dilemma a few months ago, between the f/2.8 II and f/4 IS. In the end, ended up keeping the f/2.8 II because I do paid work and it is just a stellar lens. The f/4 is super light and a joy to use, but for indoor action you'll want the f/2.8, especially with the noise characteristics of the crop sensor.

If you aren't using the macro for macro, I'd let it go. You already have it covered with the 70-200, and if you ever need it again someday, it's not all that expensive to re-purchase.

Agreed, if you dont use the 100 for macro, sell it

Between the two well.. I owned both and currently own the f/2.8 II on a 7D II, I bought it specifically because of her:

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Nice! Thanks.
Here's one of the main reasons I'm looking to upgrade to some faster equipment:

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DrMitch wrote in post #18213195
Nice! Thanks.
Here's one of the main reasons I'm looking to upgrade to some faster equipment:

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Canon Canada has the 7DII for $1699 with a memory card and some other goodies right now.
Broke the news to the wife that the 40D isn't cutting it anymore (a few recent kids volleyball tournaments with mediocre pics due to lighting helped justify it)

Had a long look at the 80D - there's only $300 difference - but I like the availability of 2 card slots, the longer shutter life and especially the Mg shell of the 7DII, not to mention the slightly higher ISO rating and FPS. The video is a nice to have for me but not a need to have (otherwise, the 80D would get the edge for sure).

I played with the 80D in the store and it just doesn't feel the same... the AF is nice on paper but in reality there is a different "feel" to it that the 7DII and 7D have

Not saying its bad, but yes, the 7DII is worth it. I've had a 30D, 7D and 7DII and every time was a big upgrade to me, You should feel the same

Also adorable

Off topic, forgot to ask, is yours a mini-aussie?? All the energy in half the size!!

DrMitch wrote in post #18213207
Off topic, forgot to ask, is yours a mini-aussie?? All the energy in half the size!!

Cardigan Welsh Corgi

Throws everyone i know

Deceptively strong for her size...forgive the crappy cell phone pictures

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I had the 70-200 F4L IS and the 100 2.8 for most of my photography years. I never felt that they were redundant, but I hated my 70-200 F4. All my friends had either the Canon or Nikon 70-200 2.8 and the difference was quite noticeable. I sold my 70-200, but still have the 100 2.8, but I am thinking of off-loading it also as it is just specific in its use.

Though these kinds of photos are really fun and these unique uses are what keeps the 100 around:

KenjiS wrote in post #18213302
Cardigan Welsh Corgi

Throws everyone i know

Deceptively strong for her size...forgive the crappy cell phone pictures

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She actually picked it up by the lens hood and can easily drag it around by the strap if she wants to...but yes should give a good representation of her size, the camera weighs almost as much as she does right now

She really likes the camera mind you... and no im not really worried she can hurt it, shes bitten the lens hood and its left not one mark.. Canon's stuff is pretty puppy proof

Off topic, but how do you like the Peak Designs strap? Have you had any issues with the metal buckle contacting and damaging camera/lens? I had the strap in my hand to buy a few weeks ago, but held off.

I'd definitely go with the f/2.8II. Of all the lenses that I have owned, it's really the only one that I have had zero reservations about when it comes to performance. It just delivers, absolutely every time I use it, no questions asked. There's been talk of a vIII, and as a guy who will usually upgrade when presented with the option, this lens is one where I can't see any reason to... there's nothing wrong wrong with it at all!!!

Dog lovers! We have 7. Yes, we're crazy.

The 70-200 f/2.8 II is perfect for what you photograph, this one is a must IMO. I'd keep the 100mm, there are times when it comes in handy for non-macro use as it's much lighter, less intimidating and a great lens overall. That is, if you can afford to keep them both.

Good luck!

MatthewK wrote in post #18214520
Off topic, but how do you like the Peak Designs strap? Have you had any issues with the metal buckle contacting and damaging camera/lens? I had the strap in my hand to buy a few weeks ago, but held off.

I'll weigh in - no problems whatsoever. I'd never even paid attention, now you have me paranoid I use my Peak sling straps often, whenever I don't need my Black Rapid double sling (which does mar the body!), or when I'm carrying two bodies and need them to lay against my body better than it does with Black Rapid. Highly recommended if you're in the market for a sling strap.