I want to do a shoot with a model based around gaming. One shot I want is her back to me playing a game with the tv in the background. Whats the best way to get the best picture out of the tv?
gmm213 I know some really nice clowns 783 posts Likes: 169 Joined Apr 2013 Location: Portsmouth Va More info | Dec 17, 2016 06:00 | #1 I want to do a shoot with a model based around gaming. One shot I want is her back to me playing a game with the tv in the background. Whats the best way to get the best picture out of the tv?
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dm1215al Goldmember More info | Dec 17, 2016 06:10 | #2 I guess that might depend on what kind of TV you have available.
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Bassat "I am still in my underwear." 8,075 posts Likes: 2742 Joined Oct 2015 More info | Dec 17, 2016 07:10 | #3 Permanent banYou may want to consider two separate shots, one set for just the TV, the other for everything else. Admittedly, this requires a bit of Photoshop magic.
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PhotosGuy Cream of the Crop, R.I.P. More info | Dec 17, 2016 08:28 | #4 I haven't tried it with the plasma, but it used to be that 1/30 sec was necessary to get the full scan of an image. In your situation, I'd run a test a few days before. And look at this: Dealing with TV's and CRT's FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything...
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Dec 17, 2016 09:05 | #5 TVs used to all refresh at the frequency of the AC voltage...older TVs (CRT) refreshed the ODD scan lines, and then refreshed the EVEN scan lines...so although the line frequency was 60Hz, it refreshed the screen fully at 30Hz and this was called an 'interlaced' display. In countries with 50Hz AC voltage, the full screen refreshed at 25Hz (half the line frequency). You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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SkipD Cream of the Crop 20,476 posts Likes: 165 Joined Dec 2002 Location: Southeastern WI, USA More info Post edited over 6 years ago by SkipD. (2 edits in all) | Dec 17, 2016 11:36 | #6 PhotosGuy wrote in post #18215605 I haven't tried it with the plasma, but it used to be that 1/30 sec was necessary to get the full scan of an image. In your situation, I'd run a test a few days before. And look at this: Dealing with TV's and CRT's Wilt wrote in post #18215629 TVs used to all refresh at the frequency of the AC voltage...older TVs (CRT) refreshed the ODD scan lines, and then refreshed the EVEN scan lines...so although the line frequency was 60Hz, it refreshed the screen fully at 30Hz and this was called an 'interlaced' display. In countries with 50Hz AC voltage, the full screen refreshed at 25Hz (half the line frequency). In the digital age, monitor refresh can depart from past practice... A lot of TVs are 'progressive' and refresh all of the scan lines in a single sweep, at 60Hz; more recent TVs even can claim 120Hz or 240Hz! Computer monitors can have a different refresh rate, based upon what video card sends to the monitor. To be safe, and with zero other technical information about the unit to be photographed, assume refresh is 1/2 the AC line frequency. I just made a few photographs of my digital television's picture. I was able to make images at same-exposure combinations of f-stop and shutter speed all the way to 1/640 second. I made one exposure measurement (in manual mode, with auto ISO turned off). Then, I made a series of exposures with equal shutter speed , f-stop, and ISO tweaks (in other words, values that compute for the same exposure) and had what looked like identical exposures for all the shots I made. To allow the variety of shutter speeds, I used ISO settings as high as ISO 2000. I used shutter speeds all the way from 1/30 second to 1/640 second and all the exposures looked the same when viewing the images on the camera's display. Skip Douglas
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Dec 17, 2016 12:29 | #7 I've done a ton of water droplets hanging in front of my monitor with flowers displayed, all at a 5 sec SS, ISO 100 and f/5.0. The things you do for yourself die with you, the things you do for others live forever.
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PhotosGuy Cream of the Crop, R.I.P. More info | Dec 17, 2016 12:39 | #8 SkipD wrote in post #18215769 I used shutter speeds all the way from 1/30 second to 1/640 second and all the exposures looked the same when viewing the images on the camera's display. Good to know. Thanks, Skip! FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything...
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info Post edited over 6 years ago by Wilt. (4 edits in all) | Dec 17, 2016 16:58 | #9 SkipD wrote in post #18215769 I just made a few photographs of my digital television's picture. I was able to make images at same-exposure combinations of f-stop and shutter speed all the way to 1/640 second. I made one exposure measurement (in manual mode, with auto ISO turned off). Then, I made a series of exposures with equal shutter speed , f-stop, and ISO tweaks (in other words, values that compute for the same exposure) and had what looked like identical exposures for all the shots I made. To allow the variety of shutter speeds, I used ISO settings as high as ISO 2000. I used shutter speeds all the way from 1/30 second to 1/640 second and all the exposures looked the same when viewing the images on the camera's display. To the OP: What you'll have to do is play with lighting level in the room so that you get a good exposure of the room and your model along with the TV screen. The brightness of the TV screen is essentially non-adjustable so you'll need variable lighting for the room and model.
I am surprised by the result at 1/250, which is half the frame refresh rate of the TV. But the shot at ISO 3200 used a shutter speed of 1/1000, and only a very small portion of the lower screen (perhaps the bottom 5% or less) showed ANY image at all...the rest was black! You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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gmm213 THREAD STARTER I know some really nice clowns 783 posts Likes: 169 Joined Apr 2013 Location: Portsmouth Va More info | Dec 17, 2016 23:09 | #10 1st off thank you for all the help and info. I will definitely put it to good use.
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drmaxx Goldmember More info Post edited over 6 years ago by drmaxx. | Dec 18, 2016 02:21 | #11 Not the specialist here, but to my understanding the main impact on picture stability in modern screens is not coming from the refresh rate but from the brightness control (pulse with modulation; e.g. see here http://www.tftcentral.co.uk …ulse_width_modulation.htm
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