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Dec 20, 2016 14:37 |  #1

Hi,
Is there a way to format a "new" sdhc card (4gb) to fit in an old camera (pentax optio wp, 5mb) that requires sd (maybe fat16 or the like)?

I got the camera for x-mas for a kid, but there is no sd card. I was thinking of using a 4gb to put in the camera. Unfortunately it says "memory card error".

Any help would be appreciated!

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Dec 20, 2016 15:39 |  #2

It is doubtful your camera can use the SDHC card. There is a firmware upgrade available at http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp …rt/digital/2005​0727e.html (external link) but it does not address the SD card size limitation. The SDHC card is much newer than an SD card and generally is not backwards compatible with older technology. From what I can learn on line the camera also only supported up to 2 GB cards.

By the way that camera uses a rechargeable lithium ion battery so that will likely be your next task.




  
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Dec 20, 2016 15:42 |  #3
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I don't know of a way to FAT16 format a large card, unless you find an old computer that doesn't do SDHC.

I did find these on Amazon.com by searching "2GB SD CARD":

https://www.amazon.com …o_browse-bin%3A6518302011 (external link)

https://www.amazon.com …o_browse-bin%3A6518302011 (external link)

There are more. Good luck.




  
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Dec 20, 2016 15:45 as a reply to  @ John from PA's post |  #4
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FAT16 only supports 2GB of memory space. It has nothing to do with the device. Older cameras are limited to FAT16 format.

Hey, it just occurred to me that Jake H. (CDS) helped me format high capacity cards for use in my 1D. I'll PM and ask if he'll take a look at this thread.

EDIT: PM sent.




  
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Dec 20, 2016 18:28 |  #5

If you are computer savvy I think you could use DISKPART (see http://www.vmspot.com/​format-fat16-usb/ (external link)) to partition the drive into two 2 gig partitions, then format one partition. This would essentially leave 1/2 the card unused. A quick look at Best Buy appears to indicates the SD card is no longer available, only the SDHC which brings you back to your original problem.




  
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Dec 20, 2016 19:04 |  #6
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John from PA wrote in post #18219126 (external link)
If you are computer savvy I think you could use DISKPART (see http://www.vmspot.com/​format-fat16-usb/ (external link)) to partition the drive into two 2 gig partitions, then format one partition. This would essentially leave 1/2 the card unused. A quick look at Best Buy appears to indicates the SD card is no longer available, only the SDHC which brings you back to your original problem.

Uhm... See post #3. SD cards are readily available.




  
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Dec 24, 2016 05:06 |  #7

The news small (non sdhc) didn't make it before x-mas. Does anyone have a trick to "downgrade" a sdhc to a sd. At least fool the camera to believe so.

Thanks!


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Dec 24, 2016 06:45 as a reply to  @ wallace1837's post |  #8
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find the oldest computer around
select the SD drive, right-click, select format,
from the drop-down menu on FORMAT, see if FAT16 is available
if it is, FORMAT the card in FAT16.

It will only do a 2GB section, but if it formats, it should work in the camera.




  
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Dec 24, 2016 15:14 as a reply to  @ Bassat's post |  #9

Thanks, I really appreciate.

I now have it format as a fat16, with small size, 128MB, but I still have the same error message. Maybe there is something fundamentally different with sdhc that is not retro compatible with sd only camera.


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wallace1837 wrote in post #18222803 (external link)
Thanks, I really appreciate.

I now have it format as a fat16, with small size, 128MB, but I still have the same error message. Maybe there is something fundamentally different with sdhc that is not retro compatible with sd only camera.

Ok, try this. Once you get it formatted FAT16 in the old computer, reformat it in the camera. If that doesn't work, I'm out of ideas.




  
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Dec 28, 2016 05:33 |  #11

Bassat wrote in post #18222806 (external link)
Ok, try this. Once you get it formatted FAT16 in the old computer, reformat it in the camera. If that doesn't work, I'm out of ideas.

Thanks, but that doesn't work.


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Dec 28, 2016 11:02 |  #12

This is a quote from the Sandisk website...

"Because SDHC works differently than standard SD cards, this new format is NOT backwards compatible with host devices that only take SD (128MB - 2GB) cards."

The way I read this is even though you can format the SDHC to FAT16, partition the card to a 2 GB partition and set it to primary, it still isn't likely to work in a device that can only use SD.




  
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Dec 31, 2016 14:15 as a reply to  @ John from PA's post |  #13

Thanks, that explains my struggle. I will stop fighting and just wait for the regular sd to show up in the mail.


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