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Dec 30, 2016 16:15 |  #1

I was initially interested in just getting one solid, well-built steel light stand. I researched and compared for hours among mostly Avenger, Matthews, and Kupo brands, and my choice finally went to Matthews Junior Steel Wheeled Stand. Once I received it, I had to name it "Beauty and the Beast" -- in one muscular steel frame. It definitely was an overkill for my needs, but it was love at first sight! Anyone who owns this Beauty and the Beast would know what I'm talking about.

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I loved it so much that I decided to get the "Baby" version, too. I wanted a strong stand that was "heavy yet light" enough for my location shoots. There was no way I can or even willing to haul around the Junior. The Junior will have to sit tight permanently in my studio. I also wanted it to be a wheeled stand so when I'm not using it outdoors, I can wheel it around in the studio. I don't mind a wheeled stand for outdoor use; I care more about the overall weight and portability. When Matthews Baby Jr. Steel Wheeled Stand came, I knew immediately that my decision was perfect. It has that "Matthews" quality built yet it was lighter than I expected -- perfect for the outdoor location shoot:

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Well, I thought I was done at this point. Wrong. During my hours of researching for the above Matthews stands, my eyes caught this Kupo Master C-Stand with Turtle Base with an innovative quick leg set up and take down mechanism. Well, I figured one additional light stand wouldn't hurt (except my bank account), so I decided to get it along with the Kupo Runway Stand Base, so I can change out the base for different purposes. When it arrived, the first thing I had to try out was the quick leg set up and take down mechanism, and WOW, what genius! It literally took me one second to set up the legs and one second to fold them. It never posed even the remotest sense of danger to my fingers when doing so. The boom that is shown here is that of Matthews Mini Boom, in itself a Beauty and the Beast of its class. I only intend to use the light stuff when using the boom with this particular stand along with some sandbags. I will soon get a Kupo 40" Hex Grip Arm for this stand:

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One of the reasons why I decided to invest in this highly versatile light stand:

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For outdoor, location shoots, I decided to settle for this Tenba Car Case Tri-Pak CCT51, 51" Padded Tripod & Lightstand Case. This can fit everything shown above and more except the Junior, which is just fine by me. This Tenba is overpriced IMHO. It's well built, and it can do the job. That's just about it. For the price, they should have provided better shoulder handle for backpack style carrying. If you're bigger than me (160LBS and 5' 8"), then forget about this style of carrying. The handle itself is a bit short even for slinging it over one shoulder. For the price, too, it should have been made with the rubber feet. Some outer zipper pockets would have been nice, too. Just have to settle for the quality material and zipper and the storage capacity.

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So, there it is, my new light stand family.


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Dec 30, 2016 16:56 |  #2

Looks like super fun toys! I'm jealous, I just have one rolling stand (an Avenger folding base roller), and just one c-stand. I am in need of expanding my light stand collection but the money always seems to find its way to other stuff instead...



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Dec 30, 2016 17:06 |  #3

paintedlotus wrote in post #18228094 (external link)
Looks like super fun toys! I'm jealous, I just have one rolling stand (an Avenger folding base roller), and just one c-stand. I am in need of expanding my light stand collection but the money always seems to find its way to other stuff instead...

I used to have no problem spending thousands of dollars on the latest camera body and all those "L" lenses, yet I'd get those "economic" light stands that end up breaking apart on me within a few years of owning them. I don't make the same mistakes anymore. I suppose getting all these stands is a way of my making up for the past mistakes -- all at once! :lol:



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Dec 30, 2016 21:05 |  #4

Looking good.


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Dec 30, 2016 23:12 |  #5

There's a sound investment for the long term. I like the low-altitude runway light. To leverage your steel fleet, add grip heads and grip arms for myriad situations. I sometimes use a roller, grip head and superclamp to hold my cellphone at altitude (bad reception) and bluetooth it. :)


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Dec 31, 2016 00:31 |  #6

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There's a sound investment for the long term. I like the low-altitude runway light. To leverage your steel fleet, add grip heads and grip arms for myriad situations. I sometimes use a roller, grip head and superclamp to hold my cellphone at altitude (bad reception) and bluetooth it. :)

Grip heads and arms are my next additions. :-)



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Dec 31, 2016 04:14 |  #7

Looking good!
I have a couple of steel stands I acquired back in 1973 (1 bought, 1 was part of 1st prize in a national portrait competition) and they are still by far my most reliable stands .... so they don't owe me a thing.
PITA to carry but so, sooo worth it for stability, reliability and longevity. I've had Manfrotto aluminium ones since then for ease-of-carry after I got tennis elbow humping the steel stands in and out of the car but nowhere near as good as the old Courtenay steel stands which are now older than a lot of members of POTN!

Agree with you about Tenba bags being vastly over-priced - t'was always thus. I've a camera bag I bought in 1979 which shows not one jot of wear after all this time so, again, good value for money in the long run. Bit hard on the wallet back then but still A-OK 37 years later.

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Dec 31, 2016 09:29 |  #8

Whortleberry wrote in post #18228527 (external link)
Looking good!
I have a couple of steel stands I acquired back in 1973 (1 bought, 1 was part of 1st prize in a national portrait competition) and they are still by far my most reliable stands .... so they don't owe me a thing.
PITA to carry but so, sooo worth it for stability, reliability and longevity. I've had Manfrotto aluminium ones since then for ease-of-carry after I got tennis elbow humping the steel stands in and out of the car but nowhere near as good as the old Courtenay steel stands which are now older than a lot of members of POTN!

Agree with you about Tenba bags being vastly over-priced - t'was always thus. I've a camera bag I bought in 1979 which shows not one jot of wear after all this time so, again, good value for money in the long run. Bit hard on the wallet back then but still A-OK 37 years later.

You get what you pay for!

I've already told my teenage son that he's going to inherit these stands.... :-D



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Dec 31, 2016 13:40 |  #9

SYS wrote in post #18228069 (external link)
So, there it is, my new light stand family.

Great looking effective kit - congratulations.

How's the Drop Pin working out on the boom? Don't lose any fingers!




  
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Great looking effective kit - congratulations.

How's the Drop Pin working out on the boom? Don't lose any fingers!

Haven't had a chance to use it but very soon. My son's college application deadline has kept me away from doing much of anything in my basement studio with my new toys. :-(



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My son had a recording session at a radio station today. When I walked into the recording studio, guess what greeted me? Matthew stands! They were everywhere in the studio! The Seniors holding the Kino Flo 80's, the Junior holding up the sound flag, and the Baby's holding a dual mic in one stand and two holding up a single mic close to the wall behind me... The whole Matthew family was working together! :-)


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Does anyone know what's holding the sound flag between the clamp and the stand? Does anyone know, for that matter, what the proper name is for the "sound flag"? Gobo?


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Jan 04, 2017 22:17 |  #13

Yes...I'm jealous. :)


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Does anyone know what's holding the sound flag between the clamp and the stand?

Down, boy, down! They're just light stands. :) Okay, the setup is Manfrotto Super Clamp held by MSE Magic Finger held by another Magic Finger held by stand's junior receiver. In typical fashion, the Manfrotto baby receiver is not deep enough to secure a standard baby pin, meaning the retaining pin misses the groove. I do it myself, but only for trivial loads facing up (not the situation shown above). If they did grind a few mm's off the Magic Finger then all is well.


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Down, boy, down! They're just light stands. :) Okay, the setup is Manfrotto Super Clamp held by MSE Magic Finger held by another Magic Finger held by stand's junior receiver. In typical fashion, the Manfrotto baby receiver is not deep enough to secure a standard baby pin, meaning the retaining pin misses the groove. I do it myself, but only for trivial loads facing up (not the situation shown above). If they did grind a few mm's off the Magic Finger then all is well.

So, two of these magic fingers?

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